COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF SHREVEPORT, LOUISIANA

OCTOBER 24, 2000

The regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Shreveport, State of Louisiana, was called to order by Chairman Patricia Spigener at 3:10 p.m.,Tuesday, October 24, 2000, in the Government Chambers at the N. O. Thomas Building (505 Travis Street).

Invocation was given by Councilman Shyne.

On roll call, the following members were Present: Councilman Huckaby, Stewart, Carmody, Shyne, Serio (arrived at 3:15) , Spigener, Shyne and Burrell. 7. Absent: None.

Motion by Councilman Burrell, seconded by Councilman Stewart for approval of the Summary Minutes of the Administrative Conference of October 9, 2000 and the Minutes of the Regular Meeting of October 10, 2000. Motion approved by the following vote: Councilmen Huckaby, Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Spigener, and Burrell. 6. Nays: None. Absent: Councilman Shyne. 1.

Councilman Spigener: We are very excited about being in our new Council Chamber. We have been trying new system to deal with and we are confidently going to be use it and be able to vote today; so we are computer illiterate.

Awards, Recognition of Distinguished Guests and Communications of the Mayor Which Are Required by Law.

Mr. Antee: I think the Mayor is still out at the Airport with Vice-President Gore, so we may want to defer to him until he gets back. I do know at some point, he wants to recognize Chief Roberts and a program that he has here today, but I am not sure if he wants to do that now or wait and see if he gets back. Councilman Spigener: We'll just wait until he come in if that is agreeable with the rest of the Council members so that he'll have an opportunity to introduce the persons that he would like to.

Mayor Hightower: I know these gentlemen, I think they are all gentlemen, I believe they are have waited patiently through the last couple of hours of discussion and Chief Roberts has been working hard with this group of pastors and some may be laymen in the community that we've called together from time to time to try to communicate the police efforts in the different communities around our city and with that I'm going to ask Chief Roberts if he will come up and introduce our guests today.

Chief Roberts: I promise not to talk about cargo, but I do want to talk about a golden egg or a golden program that we've started some weeks ago and it is the Pastor and Police Program. Pastor Calvin Kimble from Long Star Baptist Church came to us and talked to us about a program that he had seen in Compton, California. And after discussing it, it was the right thing to do at the right time and it was the right program for our City and turned out to be just that and this group of pastors has put in over 200 hours riding in the patrol cars with our police officers throughout the entire city. They have some stories that they have collected along the way and they enjoyed riding with the officers, the officers have enjoyed having them in the patrol cars with them. And today I wanted to bring them in front of you all for an official introduction just in case you all happen to see them riding in the front seat of our patrol cars. And as any great organization, there has to be a commander in charge and Dr. Calvin Kimble is the commander of this very group of men and I'm going to ask him to come forward for a comment or two and the introduction of the pastors and police.

Dr. Calvin Kimble: I want to say good evening. To the Mayor and all of the Council members, I want to thank Chief for allowing us to come before the Council and to state to you what our program is about. It is about (1) I talked to Sergeant Delaney some years ago, he and I, I worked with him with the DARE Program and so many things have been going on in this city between policemen and citizens. As I was boy that was raised up in Mooretown some years ago, I had a great fear of the policemenbecause of their actions. For some reason or another it stayed in my heart all of the years, that it has got to be a change whereas that policemen could be understood but also understand citizens. And of course the last few months as we all know we've had shootings and we've had problems. We've had many of our citizens in our community upset and all of it is brought about because of a lack of understanding and a lack of communication and lack of working with one another. I talked to the Chief, and I think first of all let me just say this, I really want to say that I really, I admire Chief Roberts because I think he's been one of the best Chiefs that Shreveport has every had. He has been a good man, he's had patience and given us an opportunity as ministers to have this privilege to ride along in the cruisers with police officers.

This program basically is about riding the police officers, being able to understand police officers' job, how he works and what he confronts during the run of an 8-hour day. I had an opportunity to see a different side from what I saw on the other side. This program helps us to become a mediator between the policeman the citizen. I brought this program from Compton, California. I was in Compton, California some years ago and doing a revival with a pastor and he was telling me about the program that similar to what we have now. There was a young men who got five people hostage and was going to take their lives as well as take his own life. And one of the pastors that was in this program was riding on duty with an officer and the call came over the radio and this pastor and the police officer went to the scene to discover that the gentleman who had held five people hostage and was going to kill him as well as take life of himself, was a member of this pastor's church. This pastor had an opportunity to communicate and to talk with the guy and during that, fortunately, he was able to let all five of those hostages be released, save himself and as a result everybody went home. The police officer went home safe. So I wanted to bring that program to Shreveport and I thank the Chief and thank all who worked with me and also want to thank Sergeant Delaney.

Sergeant Delaney and I have spent a lot of hours riding in the police car, hours and hours trying to get this program together and certainly we came up with the fact that if we could select some pastors, first of all who have the time. I want to just say this because, perhaps there will be questions and there are questions among other pastors wanting to know why were they not selected as well. The program only provided for about 20 pastors and I tried to pick pastors who I felt (1) who would have the time to sacrifice and to ride because the program, basically is about riding.

If you allow me, the Council and president, allow me to just introduce these gentlemen who help making this program a success: Pastor John Bradley, Reverend Bill Butler, Pastor Roy Davis, Pastor Arthur Douglas, Edward Green, Pastor Ernest James, Pastor Gregory Jones (who is not here), Pastor Marty Johnson, Pastor Roy King (who is not here), Pastor Jerry Madden (who is off in revival), Pastor Darryl Miller (who is not here), Pastor Nightingale, Pastor Joe Lee Robinson, Pastor Danny Thomas (driving the school bus at this time, probably got through by now) and also Reverend Walter Laney, and we had one other pastor unfortunately could not be here, had a heart attack and is in the intensive care, Reverend Eddie Giles. We want to be in pray for him. We have pastor that didn't get a chance to go through the academy and get into the program, but his is a Stepchild Pastor, he is hanging on so we want to ask Reverend Bow to stand. He is interested, so he is going to hang around and Councilman Shyne, I've already stated to these other Pastors means that they got to ride and if they don't ride, we got a ram tied in the bush and they'll just take their jacket and his badge and move on, because his is ready to roll.

Thank you so much. I want to say that we've experience quite a bit of things out riding in the cruiser and we hope to make this program, also, this program has so many positive avenues that will eventually come into focus in reality. One of the avenues is not only does this program provide for us to ride with the officers, but it helps us, it enables us if there is a problem when an officer is at a scene and there is crowd that may be dissatisfied or unhappy with the police officer and will enhance him to do his job adequately, we as pastors, if we are riding and we are on that same scene, we can diffuse anangry crowd simply by saying to them, because we carry our Bibles with us, we can diffuse that crowd and it also has happened since this program, that we just ask the crowd who is cussing, who is raising hay-dees, and everything else, we can just say lets pray. And when you pray, it cuts down the problems and we are able to help let that officer do his job. We are trying to educate the public, especially in our churches that when an officer stops you, don't argue with him, let him do his job, because if you don't its on tape and when you get to court, you can't say, well I said this and he said that; so, we are trying to educate the public. We also want to educate our young people to not be afraid of a police officer and we are trying to educate some of the police officers to be more humorous and treat people like they are citizens. If you are going to give them a ticket, just be nice, I could enjoy having a ticket when you say: good morning Reverend, give me your license. And writing the ticket and say, have a good day. I still got to go to court, so that's the trouble.

The next point I wanted to stress today is we also have a Pastor Police Choir and we will be singing in nursing homes during the Christmas and doing things for school. We are going out to sing for the kids and anything that we can do to help bring about a better relationship in our city.

Councilman Spigener: Well, this sounds like an exciting opportunity for our City and a wonderful program. I just commend all of you and I'm sure that you have seen some things, but Reverend your attitude about getting a tickets, I just can't see that mine would be that good so I don't know any good riding in those cars.

Reverend Kimble: That's because I hadn't got one.

Councilman Spigener: I do think that this is an exciting program and I just would like to personally commend all of you, even those that are not here for devoting your time and your energy. I see one of your members that lives out in my district that I have a lot of communication with, he does a wonderful job in our area informing me of what is going on, and I appreciate that.

Councilman Burrell: I heard this program I guess, we met down at Holiday Inn with Sergeant Delaney and yourself and when you explained it to me I said, it is really, it was a God send because there is so much that happens out there when there is an interaction between the Police Department and residents, there is a lot of misunderstanding. There is a lot of, many times, disrespect that's there and just to have a mediator is just wonderful. And I just hope the next time we see you, there is five times more the number that is in here now because it is sorely, sorely needed here in this City because this is still a lot of unrest that need to be dealth with and I think the best way to do it is bring a little Christ into the matter and hopefully that'll settle them on both sides. I appreciate it and any support that I can give you, I'll do that too.

Councilman Shyne: I been knowing most of these ministers for a long time and they all are concerned about the community. I think that we are very fortunate and I told Mayor Hightower that we do, we do have the best Police Chief in the country. I'm not just-I don't just say that to him when we eating peanuts or chewing chewing gum, I let the public know. I commended the Mayor when he picked Jim Roberts and I told him then and I told Jim early on that he had my full support.

I've seen a lot of police chiefs from Councilman Huckaby's friend, George D'Artois who was a very good friend of Huckaby's and Chief Roberts, I'm going to claim you as my friend. I'm going to let Huckaby have his friend, but I think that we are very fortunate . Chief, I appreciate you instituting a program like this because this is what we need and Pastor, you are exactly right and you might not understand it, Milton you might not understand it, but in the black community it is a different perception of the Police Department. You get a different feeling, when you are stopped by a police than you do when you are not black. I mean, it is a different feeling.

Chief, I appreciate you doing this and I think I said when I first got on the Council and to be truthful with you, I had some police officers approach you, that was before you got to be Chief, who felt like Huck and myself was out of order and we didn't have no business meddling in the police business and I had to remind them that we were elected officials and they were hired. You all elect us. We hire police officials. That there need to be people like you all who are working to diffuse hostile situations and you all are doing an excellent job and I think some of the friction that we have had has been because we have not had anybody there who diffuse that situation. We use to teach that in school, we don't teach that anymore. We don't teach conflict resolution anymore. We use to do that in high school. We use to do that in gym classes, we don't do that anymore.

Chief, I said that in the beginning. I think we need to have some courses like that in our Police Department and I'm glad to see that you've instituted programs like that, and this is what it is all about. That was one of the good things that happened this summer with the program at Airport Park. I know some of the people got mad and talked about me and called me all kinds of names, but I didn't mind that. But it gave the police officers an opportunity to work with those youngsters. It gave those youngsters and opportunity to work with the police officers and pastors that is exactly what you all are doing. Anything that I can do to help you all, you all know that you all have my support and when it comes time for re-election again, I'm coming around for you all support, I'm just kidding.

Councilman Carmody: I do want to commend ya'll `cause you certainly living your faith by being involved with your communities. And if I'd ask anything, just keep us all in your prayers, because we can all sure use it.

Councilman Spigener: We appreciate you all coming and we appreciate your patience in waiting so long for this moment, but we do appreciate what you are doing in our community

Public Hearing: None.

Confirmations and/or Appointments: Motion by Councilman Serio to confirm Charles (Chuck) E. Phagan, Chief Plumbing Inspector, seconded by Councilman Huckaby. Motion approved by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Huckaby, Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Spigener, Shyne, and Burrell. 7. Nays: None.

The Council considered the CONSENT AGENDA legislation.

INTRODUCTION OF RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES ON CONSENT:

Motion by Councilman Carmody, seconded by Councilman Burrell for Introduction of the Resolutions and Ordinances on the Consent Agenda to lay over until November 14. Motion approved by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Huckaby, Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Spigener, Shyne and Burrell. 7. Nays: None.

INTRODUCTION OF RESOLUTIONS:

1. Resolution No. 201 of 2000: A resolution authorizing the Mayor to execute an amendment to a lease with the Caddo Parish School Board and to otherwise provide with respect thereto.

INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCES:

1. Ordinance No. 190 of 2000: An ordinance closing and abandoning a portion of Morrow Street in the Delmar Subdivision, and to otherwise provide with respect thereto.

2. Ordinance No. 191 of 2000: An ordinance rescinding the City's right to grant public service rights-of-way in a portion of closed and abandoning Evangeline Street (old 61^st or "G" Street) in the Southern Heights Subdivision, and to otherwise provide with respect thereto.

3. Ordinance No. 192 of 2000: An ordinance closing and abandoning a portion of retained utilityservitudes in the closed and abandoned White Avenue in South Broadmoor, Unit No. 2A Subdivision, and to otherwise provide with respect thereto.

ADOPTION OF RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES ON CONSENT:

Motion by Councilman Stewart, seconded by Councilman Carmody for Adoption of the Resolutions on the Consent Agenda. Motion approved by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Huckaby, Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Spigener, Shyne and Burrell. 7. Nays: None.

RESOLUTION NO. 192 OF 2000

A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE GRANT DOCUMENTS WITH THE LOUISIANA HIGHWAY SAFETY COMMISSION AND OTHERWISE PROVIDE WITH RESPECT THERETO

WHEREAS, the Louisiana Highway Safety Commission has authorized the City of Shreveport Police Department to apply for grant funds and accept under the Safe and Sober Campaign 2000/2001; and

WHEREAS, the award, if approved will be for a total of $6,250.00. The primary focus of this campaign is to decrease the number of drunk drivers and to increase safety belt usage rates. This campaign is part of the La. Highway Safety Commission statewide FY2001 Fatal and Injury Crash Reduction Effort; and

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Shreveport, in due, regular and legal session convened, that it does hereby authorize the execution by Keith P. Hightower, Mayor, those grant documents necessary to apply and receive funding established within the program administered by the Louisiana Highway Safety Commission.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that if any provision or item of this Resolution or the application thereof is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions, items or applications of this Resolution which can be given affect without the invalid provisions, items or applications and to this end the provisions of this Resolution are hereby declared severable.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that all Resolutions or parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed.

RESOLUTION NO. 193 OF 2000

A RESOLUTION AUTHORING THE MAYOR TO DONATE SURPLUS PROPERTY, ONE RESCUE TRUCK TO DESOTO PARISH FIRE DISTRICT EIGHT, AND TO OTHERWISE PROVIDING WITH RESPECT THERETO

WHEREAS, the City desires to donate a surplus response medic unit to another political subdivision of the State of Louisiana, DeSoto Parish Fire District Eight, whose functions and responsibilities include public safety, which serves a public purpose and renders a public service; and

WHEREAS, Article VII Section 14 (E) of the Louisiana Constitution as amended, L.S.A. R.S. 38:2320, and the City of Shreveport Code of Ordinances Section 26-292 and Section 26-53 provide for the donation of surplus property between political subdivisions whose functions include public safety and whereas this donation serves a public purpose: and

WHEREAS, DeSoto Parish Fire District Eight has agreed to accept all responsibilities, financial obligation and liability associated with the acceptance of the donation of the surplus Shreveport rescue truck in question; and

WHEREAS, the Shreveport rescue truck to be donated, more particularly described as : 1986 Chevy C-70 Rescue Truck, City # 3489 VIN # 1GBP7D1G7GV121946; and

WHEREAS, the vehicle has been determined by the Purchasing Agent of the City of Shreveport to be surplus property; and

WHEREAS, the donation of this vehicle would serve a public purpose through its continued use for public safety and rescue/response purposes in Desoto Parish Fire District Eight.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Shreveport in due, regular and legal session convened, that the rescue truck more particularly described above is declared surplus property of the City of Shreveport.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Mayor be and is hereby authorized to execute an agreement with Desoto Parish Fire District Eight substantially in accordance with the donation agreement attached herewith.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that if any provision or item of this Resolution or the application thereof is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions, items or applications of this Resolution which can be given affect without the invalid provisions, items or applications and to this end the provisions of this Resolution are hereby declared severable.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that all Resolutions or parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed.

RESOLUTION NO. 194 OF 2000

A RESOLUTION AUTHORING THE MAYOR TO DONATE SURPLUS PROPERTY, ONE INTERNATIONAL MEDIC UNIT TO CADDO PARISH FIRE DISTRICT NINE, AND TO OTHERWISE PROVIDING WITH RESPECT THERETO

WHEREAS, the City desires to donate a surplus International Medic Unit to another political subdivision of the State of Louisiana, Caddo Parish Fire District Nine, whose functions and responsibilities include public safety, which serves a public purpose and renders a public service; and

WHEREAS, Article VII Section 14 (E) of the Louisiana Constitution as amended, L.S.A. R.S. 38:2320, and the City of Shreveport Code of Ordinances Section 26-292 and Section 26-53 provide for the donation of surplus property between political subdivisions whose functions include public safety and whereas this donation serves a public purpose: and

WHEREAS, Caddo Parish Fire District Nine has agreed to accept all responsibilities, financial obligation and liability associated with the acceptance of the donation of the surplus Shreveport International Medic Unit question; and

WHEREAS, the Shreveport International Medic Unit to be donated, more particularly described as : 1991 International Medic Unit, City # 3257, VIN # 1HTSLNML6NH392527; and

WHEREAS, the vehicle has been determined by the Purchasing Agent of the City of Shreveport to be surplus property; and

WHEREAS, the donation of this vehicle would serve a public purpose through its continued use for public safety and rescue/response purposes in Caddo Parish Fire District Nine.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of Shreveport in due, regular and legal session convened, that the International Medic Unit more particularly described above is declared surplus property of the City of Shreveport.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Mayor be and is hereby authorized to execute an agreement with Caddo Parish Fire District Nine substantially in accordance with the donation agreement attached herewith.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that if any provision or item of this Resolution or the application thereof is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions, items or applications of thisResolution which can be given affect without the invalid provisions, items or applications and to this end the provisions of this Resolution are hereby declared severable.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that all Resolutions or parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed.

ORDINANCES: None.

REGULAR AGENDA LEGISLATION:

RESOLUTIONS ON SECOND READING AND FINAL PASSAGE OR WHICH REQUIRE ONLY ONE READING:

The Deputy Clerk read the resolution by title: Resolution No. 190 of 2000: A resolution approving the lease agreement between Shreveport Airport Authority and HASCO Aviation Properties/Shreveport Air Cargo I, L.L.C.. for a new air cargo facility at Shreveport Regional Airport, and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

Read by title and as read motion by Councilman Stewart, seconded by Councilman Burrell for passage.

Councilman Burrell: I want to recognize Dr. C. O. Simpkins, I believe he is on the Airport Authority and also Mrs. Dr. Simpkins, who I think I saw, Elaine over there too. We were in discussion, Councilman Carmody and I were in discussion to learn a little bit more about what has taken place on this particular issue and I know that he is on the Airport Authority and I asked if he would come and from their perspective, give us an overview of some of things that they were discussing about this particular issue because I think it is so important that we all be more informed on the issue. Because there were still some questions, as I understand, about this and before we vote up or down on this issue, with him being on the Airport Authority, maybe he could share a different perspective on this.

Dr. Simpkins: This is a new Council, it looks ver good. There were questions that did come up. This cargo started off with 7,000 cargo. It started off with Hasco and Lennix. Hasco owned 66 2/3, Lennix 33 1/3 and they formed Airport Cargo Authority, that means unlimited corporation. We had a lot of problems with this.

It wasn't easy, it has lasted about a year and half. The reason was first, they wanted to use Fed Ex and it would take funds from the Airport, they give $50,000 a year. We fought that issue, they agreed to let us have that. It was ten percent after the sixth year. Then we had another problem with taxiway. They wanted us to build that. We finally got the FAA to agree to do this. Then there was another problem. They wanted to do the infrastructure, almost everything else. Then as you look into it, things begin to unravel. To me, it is established in Delaware, headquartered in Connecticut. I asked why? Why would you do this? Their name is Shreveport Cargo. They said they do what they want to do with that. Then I say, whose responsible for this building? No one. Limited liability means that no one is responsible for it. What happens if you abandoned the building. I asked the attorneys to put in certain restrictions that they had to be responsible for it. Well, he asked them, but they said that they would not do that. Other words, they build a building and they can walk away from it and somebody is stuck with it.

Then I say, whose funds this? The money comes bonds from the Port Authority. That means, it is not their money. Then who gets a profit? The people who put this up. How does the Airport stand in this? We are suppose to be independent. We are suppose to have funds coming in and support ourselves. This takes away from us. Then I asked Mr. Miller, couldn't we do this facilityourselves? Yes, we could, anybody could because it is furnished by bonds. Now, a few people make the profit from it.

Now, you have to decide if you want individuals to make the profit or if you want the Airport to make it; plain and simple; that is the way it stands. I voted against it many times. Why did I vote for it? To pass it on to you with more facilities, more authority and more concern to actually get a chance to see it. In the Legislature, when I was on Committee, we would kill a bill on committee, but I always thought, lets let everybody have a chance to look at it. I'm still opposed to it. I don't think it is good for the city. The ball is in your court and you make that decision.

Councilman Carmody: Could you clarify for me, you had said something to the fact of Vermont or Connecticut. Dr. Simpkins: Yes, it is established in Delaware. Councilman Carmody: What is? Dr. Simpkins: The unlimited corporation, Shreveport Cargo. Councilman Carmody: Shreveport Cargo is incorporated in another state? Dr. Simpkins: In Delaware, headquartered in Connecticut. Councilman Carmody: And you said the reason that was done was because. . .? Dr. Simpkins: I didn't give a reason because I don't know why. Councilman Carmody: Okay. But when you said that they have no liability? Dr. Simpkins: It is a limited liability corporation, which means that they are not responsible for anything and that if they build it and walk away from it they are not responsible. Their money. Money comes from the bonds. Councilman Carmody: Then it is your position that it would be more advantageous for the Shreveport Airport Authority to go ahead and undertake the building of this building. Dr. Simpkins: We do other buildings, why couldn't you do this one. Councilman Carmody: And you said that originally it started as 7,000 square foot building? Dr. Simpkins: Seventy thousand square feet. Councilman Carmody: Seventy, seventy okay. Dr. Simpkins: It cost about $7 million dollars. Ad when you ask certain questions about people involved, they came up that they were worth $100 million, so seven I thought would not be too much for them. I said, how would they build the building. Then it came up, how are they going to get the money? They are going to float bonds. Money comes from people here in Louisiana, maybe, to build the building. That has been my concern, that is why you asked me to come down.

Councilman Huckaby: Dr. Simpkins, I want to thank you for coming down. Have you seen the final contract? Dr. Simpkins: Yes, I saw the final contract, as it was but someone said that they are still working on it, I don't understand that but we did vote on a contract.

Councilman Huckaby: You inquired as why the Airport Authority could not or would not do this proposal or do this deal, did you not? Dr. Simpkins: Yes, I did. Councilman Huckaby: Were you given a legitimate reason why? Dr. Simpkins: They said that they were busy at the time doing the terminal and they didn't have the funds for this. When we look at it, they didn't have to have the funds for it, they come from the bonds by the Port Authority.

Councilman Huckaby: Your body, the Airport Authority could go to the Port Authority just like this private? Dr. Simpkins: Anybody could if they would be willing to sell their bonds. You go to the Bond Commission of the State and finally you sell your bonds.

Councilman Huckaby: Were ever told how much profit this deal will make per year? Dr. Simpkins: No. Long as we can get ten percent. I said, ten percent of what? Nobody seems to know. I know they are making profit out of it, otherwise they wouldn't do it. They are asking for a deal with Fed Ex of 10 or 20 years, and that would back up the bonds. And this done on the condition that Fed Ex agrees to use the facility. I never seen a situation where you do something on a proposal. If they don't do it, well its no deal.

Councilman Huckaby: At what rate is cargo increasing at the Shreveport Regional Airport? Dr. Simpkins: Oh, a big increase, it is twenty percent (20%) and its largest capacity is about three percent (3%); so, we've got to expand. The City can really have a cargo facility here better than Dallas or Houston, this is our growth product. Councilman Huckaby: Cargo is growing? Dr. Simpkins: Leaps and bounds. I was out there the other night and saw a man unload a plane from Alaska. He stopped inhere, cause it is easy to come here and get out, they were going to Mexico.

Councilman Huckaby: What was the reason given to you or to the Airport Authority for having a lease of such length, 20 years? Dr. Simpkins: Well, they wanted 25 and I guess it didn't make any different since you can walk away from it, no reason was given that they wanted to make their money, and I think they saw the future they could make even more money to extend the lease to 25 years instead of 20.

Councilman Shyne: Again, thanks for coming down. Would you say that this is a golden egg for anybody, this deal would be a golden egg for anybody? Dr. Simpkins: I think that is very true. I don't see no reason why you put something in and don't put any money in it and you quite a nice piece of money out of it. So you get a good profit out of it. But it doesn't come to the Airport. It doesn't come to the City.

Councilman Shyne: Would you be willing to say that this would be a much better deal for the taxpayers of the City of Shreveport if the Airport Authority would do this? Dr. Simpkins: We done it all along and Airport has been self-sufficient. There is no reason why we couldn't do it, no reason why we shouldn't do it. In fact we are the persons who should be doing it. They have a lease with us right now that has expired. We could talk to them and build whatever they wanted to have.

Councilman Shyne: Would you also say that, we are in a very good position located here in Shreveport, where we could develop a plan where cargo plans could land here in Shreveport and cargo could be shipped from here to Dallas or to Longview or to Little Rock or to Jackson or to anywhere quicker than cargo planes landing in Dallas could do? Dr. Simpkins: That's absolutely true. I've talked to Senator Landrieu here on Sunday and asked her if we could extend the runways, by 2,500 feet which was going to cross 70^th Street and across the railroad. You know, when you had the Mac Donald Douglas, that was proposed. If we did that, we could bring the DC-10s in, people coming from China, from all over the world. The airports in Dallas and Houston are saturated and cargo can't raise no hell about being late, but they stay in the air a long time. I asked them to figure how much gas is lost by them staying in the air. It shows that they can land here quicker with 220, 49 they could move anywhere. With 69, being developed, get that developed at the Texas-Mexico deal, we'll be in good shape; this town could really grow. And also we bought the homes where the noise might come from the Airport. We spent $30 million dollars to buy those homes, where noise wouldn't be no problem. You know the area, is a wooded area, it is excellent to see that developed, that is what I really would like to see.

Councilman Shyne: Thank you very much and Council members I think you all understand about 8 years ago we were designated as an international zone, I believe; isn't that right Doc? Dr. Simpkins: That's right. Councilman Shyne: International zone, so cargo can come in to the airport here in Shreveport from anywhere.

I think it would be very foolish on our part, I think it would be very unwise on our part and I think that we would be making a terrible, terrible mistake if we did not remand this back to the Airport Authority and let them do this.

We are suppose to be in the business of trying to make good decisions for the citizens of Shreveport. Why would we want to give a sweetheart deal or give away millions of dollars to people who don't even live in Louisiana? I mean, that is the biggest joke I've heard of since the Easter bunny. I mean it just does not make any sense. Why? This is a golden opportunity for the city of Shreveport and we are talking about encouraging people to come back into Shreveport and we make these kinds of decisions. It is ridiculous and excuse me for getting emotional, but anytime we start throwing away opportunities where we could take advantage of as a City, it makes me sick.

This is my home. I'm not going anywhere. I have two teenage boys. I want this to be a productive community where they can stay here and I almost said, take care of me when I get old but I'm old already, I'd like for them to stay here. How can we keep on telling our kids to come back, andwe got jobs for them working on the boat. I have a daughter who is over in Houston who works for the IRS making better than $70,000 a year. I'd love for her to come back to Shreveport. How can she come back to Shreveport, we steady giving away economic opportunities, I mean this is a golden goose. We are in a strategic location. Matter of fact Dr. Simpkins discussed that with the Mayor, this is a golden opportunity. This is feather in our cap. Twenty years from now, Tom you can take your-well I almost said, grandkids, but you'd be too young Tom, to have grandkids 20 years from now, but you could take your kids. You could take your kids out there and show them. Now, this is economic opportunity that is being provided by the City. I think that we need to re-think this whole situation. Doc, we appreciate you coming down and we appreciate you giving us some information that we were not privy to.

Councilman Spigener: I have a couple of questions. How many members are there on the Airport Authority? Dr. Simpkins: Five (5). Councilman Spigener: Five. How was the vote on this? Dr. Simpkins: It was 2 to 2, a person has not been replaced. We had one member to die, you know? Councilman Spigener: Right. Dr. Simpkins: Well at that time, he had not been named, so it was for 4 to 4.

Councilman Spigener: We were talking about the possibility of the Airport building this facility. Was it ever determined what kind of income could be produced because it would be a lot of expense, what type of income was there. Dr. Simpkins: Don't worry about income. If you've got a lease for 10 or 15 years, tell you how much you going to pay you, you've got your income, that's all. It is from Fed Ex. They can take a lease and we build on that lease, and you sell bonds on that particular lease `cause they have to pay that amount for that length of time, which pays for the building and gives you a profit.

Councilman Spigener: I believe we heard yesterday from Mr. Miller, that this was Phase I of the expansion and redevelopment of the Airport. Will we not have an opportunity as the City, if this facility is built, will we not have further opportunities to do this kind of development for the City? Dr. Simpkins: We have them now. We have opportunity now to do it. You don't have to wait until this built, you can do it right now.

Councilman Spigener: Well, I guess what we were hearing yesterday from Mr. Miller that, in his opinion, this was not the time for us to, for the Airport Authority or the Airport to get involved in this. Dr. Simpkins: Who set the time? The time is now, in fact it is past time but that they are picking up 20% people every month, the time is now. Cargo is increasing people are buying from the Internet. People shipping stuff here tonight. You ought to go there at night and see those planes coming in, the time is now to build it, to do it.

Councilman Spigener: So in your opinion, the Airport could get this done as quickly as a private developer? Dr. Simpkins: Maybe quicker because they home people, you have control over, you have some authority over it and you can determine what happens and we are not go away, can't walk away from it. You are right here. We are all a part of you.

Councilman Serio: Dr., I got a question. Your information today is contrary to some of the things I've heard previously, but I guess the thing that strikes me, is it in the interest of the City to get into the business of competing with private industry in this type of. . . . ? Dr. Simpkins: We are in the business now with Fed Ex. We own those buildings out there. Fed Ex, Emory. We own those buildings. We in the business now. That's our business, we already in it. We are in it now. The point is do want someone else to get into it and get the profits from it, that's where we are.

Councilman Serio: The city of Shreveport is in the business, currently in the business of providing hangers, building hangers for development, for the development of the new businesses. Dr. Simpkins: And to make a profit where we don't depend on the city for a penny.

Councilman Serio: So, I'm assuming that there are opportunities for private enterprise to do the same thing? Dr. Simpkins: If you want them to do, you decide today, let them do it. I'm not trying to stop nobody, I'm just trying to inform you what is going on. The ball is in your court. You can leteverybody come in and build a building if you want to, but you don't have no money. The revenues at the airport will go down, that is the way it is.

Councilman Serio: You say, we have no more money? Dr. Simpkins: We won't have the money coming from the revenues from these things, somebody else will get it.

Councilman Serio: Well it is a matter of risk. Dr. Simpkins: Not risk, it is a matter of deciding if you want the private people to do it and get the profit, or if you want the Airport to do it and still be independent, that's the issue.

Councilman Serio: Alright, if you are on the Board, why has the Authority taken the position to back off of construction and to let other people come in and do the development? Dr. Simpkins: The way I understand, (inaudible) if I'd been there before, I would have stopped it in the beginning but it was done when I got on the Board. They seem to have thought that they were tied up with the terminal, as I appreciate it, and they let someone else bid on this building and to give it to the city to have it bidded upon. That's when that was done. As you look at it now, we could easily do it ourselves and we should have done it. It wasn't my call to even let this thing get started. If I had of had a chance, it never would have been started.

Councilman Serio: Is there a commitment from the Board to do it? Dr. Simpkins: To do what? Councilman Serio: To get into this type of enterprise? Dr. Simpkins: We in it already. Our commitment is to do what it takes to increase the activity at the Airport, both passenger and cargo, that's our job, that's our mission, that's what we are here for. We are still committed to that. We are also committed to let you know and I am, when something has gone amiss that we can't control, to let you have a chance to vote on it and to make that determination yourself and let the people know what is going on. Now, if you decide, I won't lose any sleep over it, but I've told you and the ball is in your court as to what you want to do with it.

Councilman Burrell Dr., I appreciate you coming down because I know when I had called to try to get some more information from the standpoint of the Authority, it was mostly to try to clarify some of the issues that we heard on yesterday. It still seem to have been some questions that were there, and I have three that I know that we've talked about, some, but maybe I can get a better clarification. Dr. Simpkins: How long has this issue, as you know, been before you? Dr. Simpkins: About a year and a half.

Councilman Burrell: So, we been discussing this same issue that has just come to. . . Dr. Simpkins: But actually, it wasn't solid. There has been changes in size, 50,000 square feet; TO build a taxiway, they are going to finance it, we are going to finance it and they didn't want to pay the $50,000 we'd lose by letting them build the facility. We had to fight for that. Then, they wanted to change, wanted us to do with infrastructure, an environmental study, those things was always a fight. It was not just say, here it is. We had to fight to get these things resolved and try to get as much as we can, from them. It seems that they wanted everything from us: environmental, drainage, and everything else, taxiway; so we couldn't do it. So there was some-and then sometimes, didn't answer the correspondence; so, it took time because it took time to come to where we are now. It wasn't just a deal said, here it is and vote on it or look at it; no, we had a lot of work to do. A lot of questions to ask, a lot of legal things that came up. It wasn't something just happened overnight or that we had it all together.

Councilman Burrell: Okay, in your opinion being an authority that's on that Board, do you feel that our present indebtedness, from which I understand is looming around $30 million or maybe a little less if we cut down on. . . . Dr. Simpkins: Indebtedness to what? Councilman Burrell On the new airport that we, addition that we put on there. That our indebtedness there would prevent us from taking on another investment at this time? Dr. Simpkins: No. We have about $3 million on reserve and we are saved about $1 million dollars from the Airport. In fact I'm trying to push them to build a terminal where we can walk in, that's covered. I think, we don't have a problem with the finances at all.

Councilman Burrell Is that thought shared by many of the other Board members that are there? Dr. Simpkins: Well, I've talked to some members about it and they seem to think that we could do it ourselves and should do it ourselves and the profit that comes from it should go to the City and to maintain the Airport expanded.

Councilman Burrell So, basically, what what we were hearing yesterday, I would assume only your Director, I wouldn't say only him, but he gave us the idea that we could not do that, at this time. Dr. Simpkins: Well, I don't see where he would say you can't do it. Because anybody can do what's being done now. You can get you a contract for 15 years and you say look, I got 15 years and I am making so many millions of dollars that's guaranteed. Now, you sell the bonds for me and I build it and get somebody to get; that's it. There is no big, big thing that you got to do.

Councilman Burrell I was just a little concerned about, again, about information where there are conflicts in information because I would want to think that the Director, one of the reason why I asked you to come down to talk to us from a different perspective. Whether or not maybe from a different viewpoint, a viewpoint from someone else that may see that we can't. But what I'm hearing from you. that there doesn't seem to be a problem with a $3 million dollar. . . . Dr. Simpkins: No problem. We own more than that. We still owe for the old facility that Boeing has. We are paying about $300,000 a year for that, so we have reserve in fact; no, we are not in bad shape at all.

Councilman Burrell One other question. The percent ownership, do you know who owns what and in what percentage? Dr. Simpkins: That's what I tried to find out. Hasco at one time said that 66 2/3 and Lennix is 33 1/3 and I asked where do the other people come in? But then they said that the established Shreveport Cargo and that brought the other party and I' don't know how they divide it up. I asked, who they are. I don't know really who they are.

Councilman Burrell So you don't know what their percentage is. Dr. Simpkins: No, but I know you have certain requirements that, said that they ask for the financial background, the character of these people and everything else, and that is not required of Shreveport Cargo.

Councilman Burrell: So you are saying that the background check, in your opinion, never was done? Dr. Simpkins: You requested that from the City to find out who you were dealing with, the background of them, their involvement, how much money they have, previous experience and everything else and that was done for Hasco and Lennix. When I read the proposal, I said, oh these people got money, they $100 million dollars; that one wouldn't be no big thing for them. Then, I found out that they want to float bonds and stuff like that, and I said, well we could do that. We could get a contract from Fed Ex and Emory, we can build whatever they want to have. I went out there on Friday night I saw them load a plane and they said that they need special equipment that they don't have. In a new facility, they could have this. They can bring the product in on the plane and move right on out to trucks once they had their roads and everything made, some things they want to do. I think to be successful, you build what they need and get the contract that they we can agree on and the finance is there for you. A long term contract will help anybody.

Councilman Stewart: If I understood you correctly, according to my notes, the vote that was taken at the Authority, was 2 for and 2 against? Dr. Simpkins: No. everybody is for it, but everybody has different reasons. I was for it because I wanted you to have a chance to look at it. Councilman Stewart: What was the actual vote when this project was brought forward by the . . . it was unanimous in favor of it. Dr. Simpkins: One thing, some people were just tired of looking at it.

Councilman Stewart: That helps me. I must have misunderstood. A concern is, in my discussion with Mr. Miller and with Mr. Roberts at the budget committee meeting last week, I had the impression that it was all very favorable. This is the first. . . Dr. Simpkins: They misinformed you because they told you how I voted in the minutes and asked questions all along. They knew it wasn't favorable and I let them know that. And I also thought that, the City Attorney would have voted that it was not legal because some things were changed from the original proposal. No, I've never been forthis.

Councilman Stewart: I also had the impression that they had a legal opinion that the document was in fact legal and that we could vote for it based on the fact that it was legal, we obviously can vote it up or down. We could consider it for a vote because it was a legal document and that it had been approved. Are you of the opinion that that is not the case? Dr. Simpkins: That it is a legal document and has been approved?

Councilman Stewart: Approved by the City Attorney's Office. Dr. Simpkins: Don't other things like that, that come before you that you voted down.

Councilman Stewart: I understand any question of legality associated with the document. Dr. Simpkins: I'm not a lawyer, but I felt that after talking to Mr. Lafitte and others that they would say that a lot of changes had gone in, by the other things happening, I thought they would do that. But, I don't know law, I don't propose to know that but I thought they would have come up with a different idea all together, a different rendering of that.

Councilman Huckaby: Dr. Simpkins, you are on the Airport Authority. How long you been there? Dr. Simpkins: Been there about a year and half. Councilman Huckaby: And you served in the State Legislature? Dr. Simpkins: Yeah. Councilman Huckaby: And as a member of the Airport Authority, you don't know the amount of income this project will produce to the. . . .? Dr. Simpkins: No we never could find out how much it would produce. We know that they agreed to pay us $50,000 a year, the same thing that we are getting now, so we are losing revenue, that was a fight to get that. Then they agreed to give us ten percent (10%) of the profit. We don't know how much the profit is going to be, but it is going to be some profit.

Councilman Huckaby: You don't know the percentages, what parties have? Dr. Simpkins: I know the original part, that certain people own so much of Hasco and so much of Lennix, 66 2/3 from Hasco and 33 1/3 from Lennix; that's makes a 100 any time you slice it, correct. That seem to be that's everybody, but then they bring in Shreveport Cargo and I don't know how they are doing that.

Councilman Huckaby: If you don't know the answers to these questions, and I recall talking to Mr. Miller who is the head of the Airport Authority ( Director) two weeks ago, he couldn't answer my question. Do you know who does know? Dr. Simpkins: I don't know, who does know, but somebody must know they got a good thing going.

Councilman Huckaby: It was mentioned that the vote was unanimous, 4 - 0. At that point, we were talking about the lack of inclusion, diversity, minorities, African Americans in this deal. It was pointed out that it was a 4 - 0 vote. Dr. Simpkins: Yeah. Councilman Huckaby: If it is decided by this body that the private sector should take such a deal and run with it, would you have concerns about the lack of minority participation. Dr. Simpkins: I would be concerned if you turned it over to anybody like that, when we could do it ourselves. I would really be concerned that as a citizen of Shreveport, that if you couldn't see that this is your deal, your vote, and your City and your airport. Councilman Huckaby: I understand your objection to the deal itself. It is my appreciation that you feel that the Airport Authority ought to do this? Dr. Simpkins: Yes. Councilman Huckaby: My question to you is this, if this body should decide, over my objection that it should go to the private sector, that it should go to these investors, would you not have some concern about the lack of minority participation? Dr. Simpkins: Oh, yes, no doubt about that. Yes, I certainly would.

Councilman Huckaby: And what about your co-heart, Reverend Dr. Gant. Did he have any concerns about the legality of this deal? Dr. Simpkins: I'm quite sure he always has. I'm quite sure that this is part of his make-up, he's concerned about minorities. He is a minority himself, he has got to be concerned about himself.

Councilman Huckaby: Was he concerned about the deal himself, the same concerns that you have. Dr. Simpkins: I can't answer what was in his mind, I can't do that. We did talk about it and I can't do that.

Councilman Shyne: Dr. Simpkins I believe you and others read the editorial in the Shreveport Times, maybe Wednesday, last Wednesday. And as conservative as the Shreveport Times is and I love those people down there, and as conservative as they are, even advocated for diversity. You know, maybe it is the background that I come from, but I think we have a moral obligation as political servants, I won't say, leaders, as political servants to make sure that everybody is included in any pie that is baked in the city of Shreveport where public property or public money is being used. And I still think that we have a moral responsibility to encourage. They did that in Atlanta. There were a group of people in Atlanta that said that you are going to destroy this City. You are going to destroy this City, because you are talking about inclusion, because you are talking about affirmative action and we are not even talking about affirmative action, because you are talking about bringing a group that have traditionally have been left out of the main stream in to enjoy the economic fruits of a community that God put all of these natural resources here. So you are going to destroy this city. Look at Atlanta today. One of the greatest cities in the world.

Shreveport can be the same way, but if we keep those same old ideas and the same old philosophy that we've had for the last 3- or 400 years, we are not going to do anything but rape and pillage this city to death. This city will not grow. I think it behooves us as a political body to let anybody know, now if you come to Shreveport to do business, you need to bring a plan of inclusion. I don't care if you started 2 years ago working on it, longevity does not denote anything. Jesus lived a very short time, and there are some of us who live for 100 years and don't do nothing; so longevity does not denote anything.

We are not going to do anything but destroy this City with these same old antiquated ideas that we've always had. We are feeding those folks who we've always feed. People who've always eaten at the government trough, we continue to let those people eat and we continue to pat them on the back and tell them it is alright. And we continue to say to other folks, well you missed it this time, we'll catch you on the next time around. The next time come, well I'm sorry but we missed you this time, we'll catch you on the next time.

Dr. Simpkins I agree with you. First of all, this is a very bad contract. This is a very bad position for us to be in, to give millions of dollars to somebody else that the Airport could be making.

Second, we are sending a signal that, hey look we just playing, business as usual. We don't really have no fair share program. We don't really have no inclusion. We are not really a diverse city. Even the Shreveport Times said it. The Shreveport Times that is a very conservative newspaper.

Thank you again Dr. Simpkins for coming down and let me say this before Dr. Simpkins sit down. This is a man who started inclusion here in Shreveport. This is a man among men. This is a man who has put his money and his life where his mouth is. I'm proud to say that I'm enjoying some of the chances that he took. He put his life on the line. Not only so that blacks in Shreveport could have a better of way, but everybody. Has his house bombed, was literally ran out of town. Was jailed, was talked about and I don't know whether he know it or not, but there were people who were afraid to be around him. They'd see him coming. There were even blacks who said, you know Dr. Simpkins is a trouble maker, you know; some folks don't like him. Dr., I think God put us on this earth to make a difference and I think if we don't make a difference, I don't care what we do for ourselves, if we don't make a difference for people that are around us, we have not really lived a full life, and Dr. you've done that. I'm glad and proud to say that, you are a man that I met while I lived and I'm proud to be your friend and I`ll always call you, friend. Dr. Simpkins: Thank you very much.

Councilman Spigener: Dr. Simpkins, we appreciate you coming. I don't mean to belabor a point, but I guess from Councilman Stewart's question, I was confused. I was under the impression from what you said that, the Airport Authority voted, 2 people for this proposal and 2 people against? Dr. Simpkins: It was unanimous. Councilman Spigener: It was unanimous. Dr. Simpkins: I explained my vote to you because I wanted you to have a chance to review it. I thought when you review it that youwould see certain things in it that I saw and I wanted you to have a chance to look at it. I told you also that I served in the Legislature. Many bills were killed in Committee and people didn't get a chance to look at it. I didn't want this to happen. I wanted to come out and give a response to the city and have it brought and look at it and your vote.

Councilman Spigener: And your are aware that our Airport Director, Mr. Miller feels that this is a good move or a good project? Dr. Simpkins: And also be aware that I talked to him and he said that we could do it. He told me that we could do it ourselves. And you know that you can do it yourself because if you get somebody to give you a contract for 10 years, at a million something dollars, you can build anything and get your bonds yourself.

Councilman Spigener: I guess I'm somewhat confused by the matter that, from what we heard yesterday or it was my understanding or maybe I didn't understand what he was saying that the decision was not the time to do this? Dr. Simpkins: You have a decision to make. Today I said this and he said that yesterday, so it is your decision to make.

Councilman Shyne: Just one other point. I think when he said it was a good deal, he meant it was a good deal for the folks who was doing ti not a good deal for the City. Dr. Simpkins: It is a good deal for somebody. Councilman Shyne: I'll have to agree with him, it is better than a good deal, I would even call it a, sweetheart deal for the people who are doing the deal. But now he also said that, the Airport Authority, could do it. Now, he also said that. But now, he did say it was a good deal, but he meant that it was a goo deal for the folks who were doing it and not for the City.

Councilman Carmody: I've got a couple of questions for you Dr. Simpkins if you don't mind. Since you've been on the Airport Authority, has the Airport leased any property to private entity there at the Airport, that you know of? Dr. Simpkins: What's a private entity, I don't understand? Councilman Carmody: Say, somebody else come in and say, we would like to do a ground lease. . . ? Dr. Simpkins: No, no, I've never heard of that. I think we had another attempt somewhere where someone wanted to do something with Boeing. It is kind of contagious when you find this thing going on. I guess they want to do something to get us to do something with Boeing and they come in and lease it from us and Boeing to make a profit; I fought that one too.

Councilman Carmody: I guess yesterday my understanding and again it might have been a little different from Councilman Shyne's was that, the Director of our Airport Authority, Mr. Miller had said that the bonding capacity at the Airport would not allow them to implement this phase of a five year plan. Dr. Simpkins That's what he said, at that time when they were building the terminal. A bond like this, anybody can float it once we get a lease from Fed Ex for 10 or 15 years at so many millions of dollars and borrow the money to build the building and the bonds will go. They protect it and it is a good bonds, because they have committed themselves for a lot of time Airport and so it is no problem with that.

Councilman Carmody: Let me ask my fellow Council members, in that we now heard some information that is different from what we heard yesterday during the work session and I do not see the Director of Airports, Mr. Miller here in the audience but I assume he will be here. Can I ask that we set this aside until Mr. Miller is here so that we can get some input because I do know that, at least Councilman Shyne had felt like that Mr. Miller's comments were, his interpretation was opposed to, maybe what Mr. Miller meant and I would like to hear Mr. Miller take on this (seconded by Councilman Serio).

Councilman Spigener: I believe that you are asking us, Councilman Carmody, just not to vote on this at this point, but vote on it later on in our meeting? Councilman Carmody: Yes, ma'am. Councilman Shyne: If Mr. Miller comes. Mr. Antee: He is on his way. I know Mr. Cooksey is here and has called him. They were taking care of some final details with the Vice President at the Airport and he is getting here as soon as he can.

Councilman Huckaby: Would you permit me to ask Mr. Lafitte to ask to come up for a coupleof questions on this same subject matter.

Councilman Huckaby: Mr. Lafitte, based on your knowledge of this proposal and what you've heard today and previously, are you satisfied that this body is in a position to vote on this matter today? Mr. Lafitte: Based upon the information that I gave you yesterday in connection with public bid lease law, it did pass that particular examination. But however, once it gets before this Council, there is a notice requirement that, I think it is R.S. 3347 where it requires that there be notice published three times after you first introduce it. Mr. Thompson has indicated that notice has been published only once, that two more notice requirements that we have to publish before it is actually voted on. So, my recommendation would be that it not be voted on today until the other two public notices can be placed in the newspaper.

Councilman Spigener: I think you have totally confused me at this point. This is a new issue we are dealing with and I guess I'm a little bit confused as to why this issue was not brought up yesterday? Mr. Lafitte: It was merely an oversight on my part. Mr. Thompson did inform me yesterday that it only been published once by the Council after it was first introduced. The question I addressed yesterday was whether or not, legally, the bid law requirements had been followed. I gave you my opinion in that connection. And as a second issue is whether or not, notice after it has been introduced to the Council, whether or not the three requirements under 4712 have been met, by publication by the Council. Mr. Thompson informed me that there had only been one public notice in the newspaper, which requires, three so there are two more before you can vote, that have to be met.

Councilman Spigener: I guess my question is Mr. Thompson, why were we not notified of this yesterday? This is a legal matter, it appears to be and that what we were seeking, legal counsel yesterday? Mr. Lafitte: He did inform me yesterday that there had only been one publication. I addressed only the bid law requirements. I informed Mr. Thompson, he and I met this morning, and I did indicate that the Council had to be made aware this afternoon that there were two other publications that need to be made.

Councilman Spigener: We already have a motion and a second and were getting ready to vote on this unless these questions had come up. I'm very concerned about that. Mr. Lafitte: You were going to be interrupted, before the vote. Councilman Spigener: At what point were you going to interrupt us? Mr. Lafitte: Well actually, Ms. Glass and myself had spoken before the Council meeting actually started and once we got to this point, you were going to be informed, that there were two other notices that had to be made.

Councilman Spigener: It would have seemed to me that we would have been informed before we had this lengthy discussion about this matter. Because there are probably other questions that we might have wanted to ask of other people that we would have had an opportunity. Mr. Lafitte: And you are not prevented from continuing your discussions with Mr. Miller or Dr. Simpkins, just can't make a final, I suggest that, you don't make a final vote until the other two publications are made.

Councilman Spigener: I would think that you would tell us not to, if this would not be a legal vote. Mr. Lafitte: That's what I'm suggesting. I can only give you my legal opinion and make suggestions and advise you as to what I think, in my opinion, can or can not do and I'm advising you. . . Councilman Spigener: Excuse me for interrupting you, put we depend on your legal opinion, its very important to us. And it gets me to feeling, we are on the brink of something here, a voting that we shouldn't have, but you've explained that issue to us and unless other Council members have a question about that, we can move on to other matters.

We have a motion to delay this for a vote until. . . . Councilman Shyne: I'll make the motion to postpone because it has not been advertised for 2 times. Councilman Huckaby: Mr. Miller just walked in. Councilman Spigener: Well that true, but I think it is all a moot point, at this point, unless we want to go ahead and ask Mr. Miller. Do any others of you have questions of Mr. Lafitte.

Councilman Stewart: We have Mr. Miller that is here, we have Mr. Lafitte that is here, we haveMr. Thompson. Rather than having a discussion about what we are trying to find out, they should get together and address the issues among themselves and then come back and tell us what the facts are. Councilman Spigener: Concerning the vote? Councilman Stewart: Concerning what we can do today and some of the issues that have been discussed openly, in the presence of Mr. Thompson and Mr. Lafitte, about how this came to be, what the votes were in the past and whether or not we have a legal opportunity here to vote or we need to pass. If I hear you correctly, you are saying that, we can't vote today? Mr. Lafitte: Exactly, there has not been enough. . . . Councilman Stewart: If we can't vote today, then my suggestion to the Council is that we postpone this matter so that we can have written information rather than political discussions, where we can discuss the facts, which are the most critical points in front of us. We've listened to 30 or 45 minutes of opinions, which are very important but first and most important is the legality of it. If we can't vote today, I urge that we postpone this matter by a vote now and lets us have the information to us.

Motion by Councilman Stewart to postpone the resolution to the next meeting, seconded by Councilman Huckaby.

Councilman Shyne: My position is, since we have Mr. Miller here now lets let him clear up the questions that we asked him and I think that we need to make this understood that what Mr. Miller will say, will only be an opinion, it doesn't necessarily have to be a fact, it could be an opinion. I mean his opinion could be one thing and some of the Airport Authority members could be another one and I think what we wanted to hear was, whether the Airport is in a position at this particular time to do this project or whether we are not in a position to do this particular project. I would like to hear this, but if it is the will of the Council for us not to hear this and I think this is why Councilman Carmody was saying or asking for Mr. Miller just a few minutes ago, if I'm getting this right, so, we could hear what his statement was on whether this is a good deal for the City or whether this is a good deal for the people that is doing it or whether the City can do this or whether the City can not do this. Now, I don't see no reason why we need to postpone that. I mean, the City Attorney has made the statement that we can postpone the vote, but the discussion, I don't see why we have to postpone that. I mean, we can get that out of the way while we have Mr. Miller here, at the next Council meeting, he could be sick.

Councilman Serio: I had a question actually before when Mr. Carmody asked the question, I had one more comment I want to ask of Dr. Simpkins. Out of all of your comments, the one thing that I have not heard, what kind of commitment does the Board have to undertaking a project like this? When you undertake a project like this, you have got to have a commitment and desire to complete it and to run it and to manage it. Dr. Simpkins: What project you talking about? Councilman Serio: What kind of commitment to build this particular hanger. Dr. Simpkins: . . We are suppose to do it. Councilman Serio: . . . nay, the point is. Dr. Simpkins: What you want me to say. Councilman Serio: The point is, at one point we are giving this project out to somebody else and now we are saying that it might be a good deal business deal. What type of commitment does the Airport Authority have to pursuing this type of projects in doing it on their own? Dr. Simpkins: We are committed to that by the fact, that we are the Airport Authority, that's what we are suppose to do, that we done all of these years. That is what having to everything else out there. We are committed to make the Airport what it should be, and be independent and free from any charge to the City, that's our commitment. We are certainly committed to build a cargo or anything else that is needed out there, and we can do it.

Councilman Serio: My point is, is that we are saying that we can do. Now that we've got a project that is at the point of being voted on by the Council, 18 months later we are saying we can do but I guess I don't understand that particular. . . . Dr. Simpkins: I don't understand it either. I don't understand how they go into it, I don't understand why we didn't do it, but I told you, it was done before I came on the Board. The decision was made at that time, you had to go through it. When I find out there was no money involved in it, when I found out that they are going to get their bonds toactually do this particular thing, and get Fed Ex committed to so many years, I said, well hell, we can do it ourselves. And we can do it ourselves and we should do ourselves, if you want to. If you don't, let somebody else get the money from it. If the city doesn't want it, do it. I'll do one next time myself. Councilman Serio: I guess that is what I want to hear is, why.

Councilman Spigener: Ms. Glass, I believe we have a motion and a second. Do we need to have that withdrawn? Then I have another motion for postponement. Since we have this on the floor to be voted on, does the person who made the motion and the second, do they need to withdraw this? Ms. Glass: I understood that there was a motion by Mr. Carmody to simple postpone until later in the meeting, is that still on the table? Councilman Carmody: Yes ma'am but that was prior to Mr. Lafitte informing us that it would not be legal for us to vote today. Councilman Spigener: So we just need a substitute motion for postponement. I believe Councilman Huckaby wanted to make that motion. Councilman Huckaby: I think he did, I second it. Motion by Councilman Stewart, seconded by Councilman Huckaby to postpone the resolution until the next meeting approve by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Huckaby, Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Spigener, Shyne and Burrell. 7. Nays: None.

Councilman Shyne: Mr. Thompson, I would suggest that you would make available to each Council member, Robert's Rules of Order, in case there-for those who might have some questions on the legal procedure or the legal process of the meeting. They would have an opportunity to review them. Could you and the Attorney make that available to Council members. Mr. Thompson: Yes, Mr. Shyne. Councilman Shyne: And it would keep us from having to have to ask you or it would keep those from having to ask you so much on what we can or can not do in the legal process. Councilman Spigener: Thank you Mr. Shyne, we appreciate that.

Councilman Burrell: Since we still had some unresolved issues, I'm sure we are opting to postpone this so that we can possible clear them up. Could you either direct us or get someone to direct us as to what type of forum will there be in order for us to address these issues. Would it be in a committee form, will it back in front the Council, one on one because we still have not address where we will dialogue on these issues where there are differences if we are not going to do it in a public forum? Councilman Spigener: It would be my suggestion that each of us as Council members do the research that we need to do and ask the questions of the people that we need to ask. However, if the Council would chose to have a different forum, that would be from your suggestions. Would you like to hear from Mr. Miller at this point.

Councilman Carmody: I have a number of questions, Madame Chair, I would like to ask him.

Councilman Shyne: My sentiment would be the same as Councilman Carmody since we have Mr. Miller here. I think we need to listen to him instead of just postponing the entire discussion because to me this is very important. We are talking about millions of dollars that we need here in the city of Shreveport. Now, if it is $25 dollars which is still, Chief a lot of money to me and you, I could can kind of understand, but we talking about millions of dollars, I'd like to hear; that is my sentiment.

Councilman Spigener: Is there any objections from Council members that we hear from Mr. Miller at this point.

Mr. Miller, we had quite a discussion with you yesterday, obviously we didn't have all of our questions answered, other questions have surfaced today, so we've invited you and who would like to have their questions asked first.

Councilman Carmody: Mr. Miller, I am sorry you were here for the earlier discussion. I'll try not to be long-winded. We did hear from Dr. Simpkins whose a member of the board, Airport Authority and his comments were that he believed that it was within the financial capacity of the Airport to do this project yourselves. And, I had asked him whether or not there were any ground leases at the Airport that the Airport Authority currently has where someone else has come in and built these buildings and then basically pays a ground rental to the Airport Authority. He had said that in his tenure, I guess of 18 months or so, on this Authority that he was unaware of any? Mr. Miller: Wehave a combination of business arrangements at the Airport. I'll give you some examples. The Boeing Hanger, for example, was built with a state loan that the Airport Authority pays back out of its revenue from that building ground lease. We have other hangers that are built and owned by private individuals on land that is leased from us. We have buildings that we have built and we own the land and the building, with the City, and then we lease those to tenants. There is any combination of business arrangements that can be constructed. As I said yesterday, freight facilities are generally built one of three ways: an airport builds them and rents them, a freight company using the Boeing example (not a good example `cause they own the building). A freight company can build a building and lease the land from us and operate out of it, or you can use a third party developer, which is what Hasco does. Where an airport, then would lease land through a developer. The developer would come in and build the building and then lease the property to the end user, like a Fed Ex; that's typically the way you would do one and you can do those under an combinations.

The Airport Authority has had no debt other than the Boeing facility in my tenure here, 13 years, other than the terminal building which just incurred some two years ago, prior to that, we were debt free. Certainly, an airport and airport is no different could construct a business deal where if you had a tenant, a prospective tenant and they were willing to sign a lease that would handle the debt service, then you could pledge as I appreciate it, then that lease to borrow the money to construct the facility. So it just depends on which way at a given time the Airport would want to operate.

And as I said yesterday, a year and a half/two years ago, the Airport Authority at that time felt that it was more advantageous based on the circumstances and staffing, debt capacity being used for the existing facility, no freight company on the line that we would go out and get a third party developer to take those risks, market that facility. Now, certainly some of those circumstances may have changed in 18 month, but the rationale behind it is, at the time it appeared that a third party developer was the best way to proceed, in a timely manner to construct the facility.

Councilman Carmody: The comments by Dr. Simpkins, and please sir, I don't mean to misquote so I'm hoping I heard you correctly. But that it was his understanding that in essence, the third party did not have to come out of their pocket with any money and in addition had no liability or a limited liability in the way that they had formed their company and in corporate it into a state. All that being said, at this point, Airport Authority acts as development agency for that piece of property, as I appreciate it, for the City's property, the Airport and that you would be out actively, your staff, soliciting potential business to come in and ya'll would facilitate their development here on City property to turn a profit for the Airport and then I sense, the city of Shreveport. Mr. Miller: Correct. Councilman Carmody: At this point, Fed Ex, apparently is a willing tenant for additional square footage at the Airport, as I appreciate it. Mr. Miller: They have not had that conversation with us. We tried to have that conversation with Fed Ex and they have been rather closed mouth. We believe, on a conversation with them, that they are wanting to expand their facility. We do know that they, and Mr. Williams is here may need to address that, we do know that Federal Express has dealings with the parties in Hasco at other airports and that they have an on-going relationship over some years, that we don't have. Now, with that said, we have had Fed Ex as a tenant in our existing facility for probably 20 years, every since the facility was built and Mr. Williams may have been on the Authority when that happened. So to say that they want to expand, yes. Do we have a deal with them? No. Can we get a deal with them? Perhaps.

Councilman Carmody: I don't mean to say that we need to cut out someone who has worked, apparently for a long time to build a relationship with a company that wants to come in and do this development, but from what one of your Airport Authority Board members has said, it sounded like there was some disagreement as to the way the proposal was put together, at the Board. The representation that we have here is that it was voted unanimously for 4 members for. Mr. Miller: That is that correct. Councilman Carmody: But what we heard today from Dr. Simpkins was that, apparentlythere was some discussion. Mr. Miller: There has been numerous discussions over time about this particular project. There has been negotiations both in writing, on the telephone and in person about it. I believe that in the September meeting, it came up for a final vote from the Airport Authority. We finalized the document and it motioned and voted on unanimously by the Board to proceed and send it to the Council for the increase in the term from 15 years to the 20 years.

Councilman Carmody: I know that there are other Council members that have a question, so I'll leave you with this last one. Is it within the bond capacity of the Airport Authority, to go ahead and do this development, now? Mr. Miller: It would be my opinion with the existing revenues we could not do it. All of our existing revenues are pledged for the Series A and Series B Bonds for the terminal. However, if we could secure a long term lease with any potential prospect, we could perhaps do an industrial development bond and build something. So, we would need, as I appreciate the way the process is, if you get a tenant, you get a lease, take the lease, pledge it as collateral, go before this body or another body for bonding; that that could be done if you get a lease that will support the debt service.

Councilman Shyne: Mr. Miller, I appreciate your frankness and I appreciate you saying that, not only the Airport Authority but anybody who could get a long term lease that would support the debt service, could do the business, could get the bonding, could get the financing. And I appreciate you saying at the time that you all made the decision that you thought it was the most advantageous way. And I appreciate you saying that you did not think that it could not be done. To me it is a lot of difference in saying that it can not be done and this is the most advantageous way.

I've heard a lot of people say, so and so and so can not be done. I remember about 20 years ago, people told Hilry Huckaby sitting over there that he shouldn't file a suit in Federal Court that would change the form of city government. A lot of people told him that it couldn't be done. They told him, he was crazy. I thought he was kind of half way crazy, but I figure that it could be done. I still kind of think he is crazy, a little bit, but it could be done. So, I appreciate you saying that that was the most advantageous way, but that it could not be done, this other way.

Now, I think that you mentioned three ways that you can do things: the Airport can do it or you can get a freight company that can do it or you can get a third party to do it. Mr. Miller I think for us the most advantageous way would be for the Airport to do it because I know this is probably 18 or 24 months later than when when you all made that decision. I guess it was kind of good that I was not a member of the Airport Authority 24 months ago because I would have disagreed with you then. I would have felt like that it was more advantageous for us because it seem like the people that are doing, if you get the contract, you are not out of any personal money ad that's a pretty good deal anyway whether you are here in Shreveport or whether you are in Meridian, Mississippi, whether you are Get Tough, Texas or wherever; I mean that's a pretty good deal. When you get a contract and you make millions of dollars on it and you are not out of any money. I'd like to see us be smart enough to take advantage out that.

Let me say this, I understand your position. I understand the situation and a lot of times, when we see things, if you are not really involved in it, it takes on a different appearance. And I appreciate you being truthfully. I appreciate Dr. Simpkins coming forward and in being truthful and factual telling us what when on, because a lot of times, we need to know what goes on, so that we can make an intelligent decision.

I'm liberal in some ways, but when it comes to money, I'm very conservative. I've actually been told that I'm kinda might be on the tight side and I might be because happen to be one of the individuals that was born and didn't have very much and my daddy always had a philosophy, you know son, whatever you make try to save some of it and don't spend all of it. So, when it comes to the public trust or when it comes to public money or when it comes public land, always try to look at the conservative side of it and see what's best for the people. Not what's best for two or three people andnot what is going to be best for tomorrow, but what's going to be best for 10 or 15 or 20 years down the road because I plan to be around a good little while, I might be on a walking cane, but I plan to be around for 10 or 15 or 20 years from now and I don't wouldn't want my kids to look at me and say, Daddy why did you all do that? I wouldn't want other people to look at me and say, you know Councilman, you all made a bad decision because that could be some benefits that this City could be reaping.

I look at cargo for this city as a better source of revenue basically than, gambling; now, really I do. Because I see cargo increasing at 20%, this is what I'm told and with the Internet coming on and especially with General Motors coming in, I mean cargo is going to increase because these companies that is going to be supplying General Motors, they are going to have to have parts shipped in here. They are going to have to have everything shipped in here.

Mr. Miller. I can look at you and I can tell you are a man of vision. You've done an excellent job out at the Airport. Some times, we are all human and we get loaded down and some decisions that we make, I mean that is just like Bob Greasey-good quarterback for a long time and they traded him. You've done an excellent job as being the manager at the Airport and I like what you are doing and I want to see you continue, but I really think that this is a bad decision. I think that the City of Shreveport is going to lose millions of dollars because we've got General Motors coming in and we've got an energetic Mayor over there who is going to make sure that we get some other big companies to come in here. And when he goes on to be Governor, we've got another energetic person who is going to be Mayor of Shreveport, that is going to make sure that we've got big companies coming in where cargo is going to have to come in.

Mr. Miller, I see this as a golden opportunity for the city of Shreveport. I see this as a golden egg. And I'm begging my colleagues, I wouldn't want to see us let somebody else from Delaware or where is it, Councilman Huckaby? Councilman Huckaby: Pennsylvania or somewhere. Councilman Shyne: Pennsylvania or New York anywhere. I wouldn't want to see that happen. Dr. Simpkins and I was talking about how they do a lot of cargo in New York City. How a lot of the cargo land in Virginia and they ship it back up to New York City by rail. I see Shreveport being that same kind of city who can do that for Dallas, Fort Worth or Longview, Houston or Marshall. And you know Dallas is just busting at the seams, even San Antonio. And I would beg of my colleagues, please, lets don't throw this opportunity away. Please, lets do not throw this opportunity away. Lets give Mr. Miller some more money. Lets let him expand his staff, because he can handle it. He has done an excellent job so far and this is what the Airport Authority is all about-being able to handle growth in the cargo industry. There is no use in having no Airport Authority, there is no use in having no director of Airport, let the CAO do it. I mean if we are not talking about growth.

Mr. Miller, I truly believe that that is something that you can handle. I truly fee like that you've done an excellent job in handling it. I like how you've lead the Airport in the growth stages, I believe through what, 2 mayors and this is the 3^rd one. And you've had some big mouths on the city council, like me and that is a part of what I am suppose to do. So I would ask my colleagues, please, lets let Mr. Miller and the Airport Authority handle this and the city of Shreveport will be a whole lot better off.

Dr. Simpkins was right. I mean he voted for it so it could come on in our court. He didn't vote for it because hey, this is a good deal and I like it. There were other members who didn't do that and I agree with him. And some times it is not good to kill something in a committee. I was at the SPAR the other day and really thought something should have been killed at SPAR, and they said nay, we going to send it on to the City Council. Didn't they Mr. Norman? I am ready to deal with it.

So, Mr. Miller please go back, take a look at it, I know it is in our court now. I believe you can handle it. I believe you've got people on your staff or that you can get people on your staff that would be able to get contracts. Cargo is growing, tourist industry is growing; lets don't kill one of the golden eggs. We got two good ones, lets don't kill them. Because we've got a Mayor over there who is goingto continue to bring industry in here, because we are talking about bringing the kids back home. You can't bring them back home if you ain't got no jobs for them. Am I right or wrong? I'm sorry, you are not suppose to answer that. But, please, please my colleagues, lets look at us handling this. I think we will sleep better and when we walk out among the people, we can stick our chest out. Mr. Miller thank you. Madame Chairman, thank you for being so patient.

Councilman Spigener: It was with a great deal of tolerance, Mr. Shyne. And gentlemen, I want you to speak as much as you want to, but if you've stated the same issues and given us the same information, lets move on.

Councilman Burrell: The question was posed earlier, Roy, and no one seem to be able to put a handle on it. What is the percent break up of this business entity? I think you said that there was three in there and we asked Dr. Simpkins, he sad that he doesn't know and I think that may have been addressed to you yesterday and you didn't address it. Do we really know? Mr. Miller: The proposal indicated that there were 3 partners with 33 ½ percent each, one being a Tom Samuels, one being a Tom Harold, and one being a Links Corporation which is an air freight corporation management company. It has since been brought to our attention that that organization, as I believe, allowed Mr. Williams to have a 10 percent partnership in that.

Councilman Burrell: The one that was a 33 1/3, is now 23 1/3? Mr. Miller: That would be my understanding, but you might want to ask Mr. Williams, because I'm not privy to all of their internal information.

Councilman Burrell: Did this change the contract up any, because we been talking about contract changes and if the contract is changed, then how does that affect the process? Mr. Miller: It is my understanding talking to Mr. Madison about that, that the Hasco presented themselves as Hasco/Shreveport Air Cargo I, LLC and if LLC and Shreveport Air Cargo would be the operator of the facility, that is the portion in which the partnership exist, in other words I believed it established as an LLC, limited liability company, under the laws of Delaware. My understanding then that the partnership they have is substantially the same as it was, with the exception of Mr. Williams being a 10 percent partner.

Councilman Burrell: So that did not change the contract to the point where, it should have been reviewed? Mr. Miller: Our contract is with the LLC and it would be like a Subchapter S, I'm not a lawyer, so a lawyer may need to tell you, but as I understand it. a corporation of LLC is its own identity and its partners are its partners. Your agreement is with the entity, which is the LLC. How they divide up the entity, is really their business. Where we will contract with the limited liability company the same as we would contract with a corporation. We are not contracting with the individuals. I don't believe with the way they divide up their ownership would affect the entity with which we are doing business.

Councilman Burrell: Okay, there was a change from a 66-seem like then in the initial contract it say that it was 60-40 or 60-60. . . . Mr. Miller: In the proposal, the proposal asked, we asked the presenters to show us their financial make up. In many cases, you will get a corporation that will submit, when you want to know who the board of directors are, what the ownership was, and how much stock and those kinds of things. So we asked whoever submitted to provide us with their company financials and so Hasco/Shreveport Air Cargo provided us with financials. In 18 months, it would seem to me that they could change their partnership, not change their partnership. I don't believe that it would affect the fact that we are still dealing with the company, not the individuals. So, the contract was also, the lease contact, was always written to be with Shreveport/Air Cargo as they presented it in the proposal. We negotiated that through some process because we wanted to get a clarification from them whether they were going to be "Hasco" or whether they were going to be "Shreveport Air Cargo." They provided us with documentation that they had established this limited liability company and that was who were going to enter into an agreement in their original proposal. Their proposal letter indicated that they wanted to operate as Shreveport Airport LLC. Our contract does not change in that respect. Their corporate make up may have changed, but I'm not privy to all of the details of that. We did ask for them to give us their primary partners, which they didn't do. We know that was a initial proposal, so it was later as we continued our negotiations.

Councilman Burrell: There was another comment made, for clarification, that a part of the city's practice in entering contracts with anyone, they would do a back ground check. Do you know whether or not background check was done on this company? Mr. Miller: We asked our attorney to inquire with the state of Delaware as to the corporate documents and who the partners were and he did that and provided it to the board. We did not do any other back ground check that I'm aware of.

Councilman Burrell: And it was satisfactory, I take it? Mr. Miller: As I appreciate it from Mr. Madison, they were legally established under the laws of Delaware and were a legitimate company.

Councilman Huckaby: Mr. Miller, am I understanding you correctly, if the Airport Authority could get a long term contract with Fed Ex or someone like Fed Ex, you could take that contract and use it as collateral and get the financing to do this project itself, is that right? Mr. Miller: Customarily, that can be done.

Councilman Huckaby: And how much effort has been made to get a long term contract with Fed Ex or some other similar company so that you could do this project yourself? Mr. Miller: We have not made that effort in the last 2 or 3 years.

Councilman Huckaby: Why not? Mr. Miller: Typically what our freight companies have done with the existing facility, is enter into a 1, 3 or 5 year agreement. We are in a 5 year agreement with Fed Ex and they were not willing to entering into anything beyond 5 years for the existing facility. We talked with numerous freight companies about longer term agreements and no one came back and said they would like to do a proposition like that, so we didn't pursue it. We had the terminal project going and quite honestly, was not a primary project for us at the time, although we knew that freight was growing. We have been working with our existing customers but we did not have the sense that any of those wanted to enter into a long term contract at that time.

Councilman Huckaby: Has the presenter obtained a long term contract with Fed Ex? Mr. Miller: It is my understanding they are negotiating a contract with Fed Ex and I do not know if it is a 10 year lease or a 20 year lease.

Councilman Huckaby: They are negotiating a contract? Mr. Miller: Yes, sir. Councilman Huckaby: Without a long term contract, they would hardly be able to get the financing themselves, is that right? Mr. Miller: You would have to ask them that. I would think that you would want to have a contract, although I do know that we entered into our bond with the terminal building with a 5 year agreement with the airlines and we were able to borrow the money with only a 5 year agreement in place, that's because it is a different type of business. So it would depend on the lender, if the lender would want to loan you long term money on a short term agreement; some times you can get it, some times you can't.

Councilman Huckaby: You would not be amenable to the Airport Authority seeking a long term contract, sufficiently long enough to get the financing and for the Airport Authority to do this so that you can maintain yourself as an independent body? Mr. Miller: I would be very amenable to it. And over the years, we've tried to negotiate those type of contracts. In 1990 or `91 tried to do that kind of deal with Air Borne Express. They were offered a better arrangement from someone off airport. Over the years we've talked to different aviation companies. One of the reasons that we did structure this particular project the way we did, is this is a three phase project. We reserved the right to develop Phase II and III at the airport level, so there is the opportunity if one were to enter into this agreement with Shreveport Air Cargo for Phase I, that is only one customer. As I appreciate they have one customer taking up 60 (some odd) thousand feet. As another customer would come on line, we can certainly develop Phase II and III yourself.

We felt, and my opinion at the time was that, it was good to get an anchor tenant in, spend their money. They would be the one exposed to the risk, they would be the one that would have to go out and get the customer and we would get the facility and an increase in our land rentals and we'd own the facility at the term of the lease. But that we wanted the right to do what Mr. Shyne has said, is to do future freight development on our own, but we needed someone in to get us started.

Councilman Huckaby: What customer did they go out and get? Mr. Miller: It is my understanding that they are negotiating with Federal Express. Councilman Huckaby: Federal Express has been there, have they not? Mr. Miller: Yes, sir. Councilman Huckaby: So they didn't go out and get them, they were there. Mr. Miller: Well, they are there in a much smaller capacity, they only have about, I'm just guessing about 6,000 square feet of building and probably 30- or 40,000 square feet of apron and they are talking about moving into the facility that would be between 60- and 70,000 square feet of building and I think 120 or 130s square feet of apron.

Councilman Huckaby: But they didn't go out and get a customer, they had a customer. They are just increasing their capacity, is that correct? Mr. Miller: Yes, sir. Councilman Huckaby: You could have done that, the Airport Authority could have done that, right? Mr. Miller: Well, over time we tried to do that, but Fed Ex was not interested. Councilman Huckaby: Why where they more interested in dealing with the private sector than with you? Mr. Miller: You'd have to ask Fed Ex that question. I'm not trying to be catty about it, I don't know. I mean, that's been one of my questions but apparently there's a long term relationship these companies have with developers and they have used them in other facilities and maybe they are comfortable using them as developers. We continue to try to open those doors for us and hopefully we'll be successful in doing it. In this particular case, Fed Ex has to my knowledge has been negotiating with a third party developer.

Councilman Huckaby: I previously asked you and I don't think that you had an answer to it, a question I want to ask you again, maybe you have obtained an answer by now. Do you know the anticipated profit that this company will make from this deal? Mr. Miller: No, sir I do not. Councilman Huckaby: Would you not be interested in knowing what kind of profit they will make? Mr. Miller: I might be, on the other hand I might be interested to know that they are going to pay our rent and what their arrangement is with their customer. . . . Councilman Huckaby: You were making $50,000 a month, anyway weren't you not? Mr. Miller: Sir? Councilman Huckaby: Were you not getting $50,000 a month income? Mr. Miller: Yes, sir and in Year 6 we would get a percentage. We did ask per forma. I don't have that per forma with me and I don't remember the numbers. It seems to me they were making a near six figures a year in net, and that is just typically off the top of my head and I wouldn't want to guarantee the number. I'll be glad to provide you a copy of the per forma they did give us.

Councilman Huckaby: I'd be interested in knowing what kind of profit they made because I think that is a consideration that we ought to be concerned about. Right now, the Airport is basically an independent authority agency. You don't ask the City Council for any money because you are able to make money and this is an opportunity for the Airport Authority to make money. And it would seem to me that you would be interested in knowing how much this body or this group will be making from this project. Who know, it could be multi-millions. You don't know but you are willing to give them a 20 year lease. I'm concerned about giving somebody a 20 year lease and have no idea what kind of profit they are going to be making. I certainly would like to have that information before I vote on this. Mr. Miller: I would provide that document to you.

Councilman Spigener: We had a request that you provide that information to each of the Council members. Mr. Miller, as I appreciate the situation that we are in at this point is that, we can go ahead and approve this and have a facility that will be built or we can vote against this and we can ask the Airport Authority to look into and trying to secure a customer for a long term lease that will secure bonds and it would have no time frame in which that could be done.

Mr. Miller: That is correct.

Councilman Spigener: Those are our two issues right now. We have a project ready to go that can be built or we can wait and see what the Airport Authority can do to get a long term customer or client. Mr. Miller: In my arrangement with the developers, that they do not have a building under construction by December 31^st , then the lease is null and void. So they would have to have a customer in place, not later than and to begin construction not later than December 31^st of this year. It is my understanding they do not have a lease with the customer yet, but that they believe one is forth coming.

Councilman Shyne: Mr. Miller, I want to make this clear too now. Sometimes it is wise and prudent to wait a little bit. You know sometimes, and I see a lot of ministers out there nodding their heads because they understand how, sometimes we can be too fast. We can run out and get something and if we wait just a little while, the Lord will send us more and this could be that situation. We could be running out too fast and if we wait just a little bit, I truly believe that we can maintain the tenant that we have, we are still going to make the $50,000 a year. I mean if I could understand if our contract would call for us to go from $50,000 to $500,000 or even $250,000. We are going to make the $50,000 anyway, if we wait until 3 or 4 years. Councilman Huckaby: Six years. Councilman Shyne: Six years.

But Mr. Miller, I'd rather put my money on you. I really feel like that you have the ability and the creativity to get somebody and you got some good, you have got better people on the Airport Authority now than you've had in a long time. And I don't want to tell my age (and my hair isn't really gray, I don't want ya'll looking at my hair and thinking that I'm old) but I been around a long time and I've seen a lot of people serve on that Airport Authority. Now, I'll have to tel you that you've got a good group of people now that is concerned about Shreveport. I know you've got one over there. A man who really put his life on the line for the city of Shreveport. He didn't have to come back, but he did. And I believe you working with him, you all could come up with a person who could secure some tenants because you've got General Motors coming in and you are going to have other plants coming in and that cargo is going to increase. We are going to be able to make some money. I'd hate to see us wait 20 years.

Mr. Miller, I believe you can do it. I truly believe that you can do it. You are young, you energetic. You have been around, you have the experience and you can get somebody to work with you. I'd rather put my money on you than to put it on a company that is up in Delaware. I've always believed and I think it might say in the Bible, charity starts where? At home. I'd rather spend money on people here at home then to send hundreds of thousands of dollars to somebody in Delaware. Not that have anything against the people in Delaware, I don't. Not that I wouldn't want them to come to Shreveport and maybe pastors, ya'll excuse me, but do a little gambling and go to church after they get through or maybe go to church first, because if they don't, they might lose everything. But I would really, Mr. Miller like to see you do that and I know that you have the ability to do it. I know you have the creativity to do and I know you have the energy to do it the way I see you moving around. Because, I saw you moving that day out at the Airport and you kind of got a bug, I mean you kind of got that little, I don't want to call it a flu bug, but whatever it is and Mr. Miller I believe you can do it. I truly believe that you could get a team and you'd be surprised at what they could do, how they could recruit because we are in a very fertile area and I'd like to put my money on you Mr. Miller.

Councilman Serio: If Fed Ex takes this facility or if this facility every gets built, ave any body in mind or do we have any companies that take up that space? Mr. Miller: It will be the potential for existing companies to expand or other trucking companies and freight companies that might want to come on the Airport and take that space over time. Part of this arrangement with the developers, they would guarantee while it was vacant, and it would be to their advantage to help us market a new tenant in there so that we would get someone else in the vacant space, hopefully in a short period of time.

Councilman Serio: Do you have 6,000 square feet right now that would be available? Mr. Miller: I believe that's right. I think they have 3 bays for 2,000 square feet a piece. The situation that wewould not be short, by losing them to a private tenant, to a private company. Mr. Miller: Well. what will happen the developer being Hasco or Shreveport Air Cargo, would guarantee the rents on the vacant space until a tenant was found for it.

Councilman Serio: And how long their existing lease runs for how long? Mr. Miller: Fed Ex's, I believe we are on a month to month with this at this time but they have been trying to decide whether to stay there or go to other quarters. Now, if we got a new tenant, we would have either 1 3 or 5 lease. We tend to negotiate each of those.

Councilman Serio: In your dealings with Fed Ex and companies the size of Fed Ex, how often do they get involved in local politics? Mr. Miller: Very rarely, to my knowledge.

Councilman Serio: I mean, what's the possibility of throwing this thing off somewhere else? Mr. Miller: I wouldn't be able to speak to that.

Councilman Huckaby: Question to Mr. Serio, what do you mean, get involved in local politics? Councilman Serio: Well, my concern that you are dealing with a company that I believe is a Fortune 500 company and that when you, we have a possibility of building a facility for them and they are looking to expand their current square footage almost 10 times what they are looking at, what they have got now to what they have, obviously they are looking at a different type of arrangement, a different type of facility, not just the small scale facility they have now that would bring cargo in, more cargo in but also direct cargo to other parts of the country from this particular facility. And what I'm concerned about is that, if we delay this and delay this and Roy just said that they are looking at having to have a decision on this by December 31^st, that if we get into the middle of November before we have a possible vote on this and maybe the first of December, it is possible that we could just blow this whole deal for development of a program like this for the city of Shreveport and that if you do that, regardless of what the concerns are, there is nobody to invest, there is no deal anyway.

And that we have a deal on on the table right now and the discussion right now have been that, it is a done deal. But obviously if this contract, by December 31^st is not completed, nothing happens and the city of Shreveport is then out of a facility that is virtually 10 times larger than what it has now which means if you have, I don't know how many employees Fed Ex has right now in their facility, but anytime you enlarge that much, that means that you have the capacity of bringing in many more planes much cargo, that also means an inflow of goods and services that is then handled by local employees, put on trucks or whatever, and carried out of here. I'm just afraid that when you are dealing with a company of that size and that large, that if you hold this thing up, you are going to end up with, nothing, I really do.

Councilman Huckaby: I'd like to respond to Mr. Serio. My concern is, Mr. Serio, who is the real beneficiary of this deal? We will get $50,000 for the next six years regardless, that is what we are getting now. And I believe that if the Airport Authority the same kind of diligent effort to get Fed Ex to increase and get bigger, we'd have this contract instead of this private out of Connecticut or wherever they are from. I mean, what good is it doing Shreveport a hand full of jobs, laborer's job, handling some cargo. I think we need to look at it from the big picture: who is the real beneficiary of the deal? It is not the Shreveport Airport Authority. We are going to lose deals like this and have the Shreveport Airport Authority come to us asking for money or are we going to insist that the Shreveport Airport Authority make a diligent effort to do the same thing that the private sector is doing. I think we ought to ask the Airport Authority to make the same kind of effort that the private sector-they didn't go out and get a new customer, Fed Ex was there. They have been there. So we can do the same thing and let the City, let the Airport Authority be the beneficiary, the real beneficiary.

Councilman Serio: Huck, I think the issue is, you are right. The customer was already there. The customer is already in the City of Shreveport and obviously we want to see them expand, butmaybe then what we need to look at is, if this possibility exist for all of this new business out at the Airport, then use this as the catalyst to move forward just the same as the one boat on the riverfront became the catalyst for the second boat on the riverfront, the catalyst for all the new restaurants and clubs and the other development on the riverfront. But I think you've got to make easy for people to do business in this City as well. And this type of investment with a private group and of course, I keep hearing this name, Hasco; so, if you've got a group that has a business development, a business relationship, a nationwide business relationship. Is that correct Mr. Miller, they have a nationwide business relationship, Hasco, with Fed Ex? Mr. Miller: I understand that the principals have been in the air freight development business for some 15/20 years.

Councilman Serio: I mean this is not just a one time shot with this particular company? Mr. Miller: It is my understanding they have other facilities and we've asked for those references, so we do have a list of other facilities that they are involved in.

Councilman Serio: It is just like, when you look at mall developments around the City of Shreveport. When these malls develop, the owners that develop these malls have relationships with all of these different. . . Councilman Huckaby: Did he answer your question to that effect? Is that your answer? I didn't hear him answer your question to that effect. Councilman Serio: He said yes they do. Mr. Miller: Is the question whether or not Hasco is involved in other projects in other places, the answer is, yes they are.

Councilman Serio: So. what you are dealing with firms that have business relationships. To get in the middle of it and interject and say, we are going to do this on our own, but since you decide with somebody you already have a business relationship with that you are going to up your square footage 10 times, we expect you to do the same thing with the city. I don't know that is going to be, that they are going to come back and say, yes. I really don't know if they are going to come back and say, yes. I mean, you are dealing with business and trying to impose what you want to happen and obviously I think Mr. Miller probably understands from now that if we get this deal in the City of Shreveport, that the Airport Authority needs to look at the potential to create these type of developments, locally. But maybe if you get one deal on the ground that you will have local people that will come forward and try to put a program like this together or possible even the Airport Authority come together and give us this type of deal, but I can say one thing, if you have got a bird in your hand and you are going to throw it away; I don't understand that. I really don't understand that as bad as we need diversification in the City of Shreveport and here we've got somebody that wants to diversify, it makes no sense to hold up a project and of course I realize that we've got legal problems now we have to hold it up for two more council sessions anyway so that we can do the proper bidding on it or the proper notification on it. I see no reason to try to find a way to rearrange a business deal that has already been put together, I really don't.

Councilman Huckaby: I yield to Mr. Shyne, if it is alright with the Chair. Councilman Serio: I think Madame Chair has to make that decision. Councilman Shyne: I think he can make the decision, Mr. Serio.

Councilman Spigener: Gentlemen, I think that we are going to have to call for the question. Councilman Shyne: Madame Chairman, I was smiling Councilman Serio because it seems like those are the same, that's the same argument that I read in some articles from the City of Atlanta back in 1970 when they was telling the Mayor, when the Mayor said, well we are not going to do this Airport until we have 40% for minorities, that same argument. Mr. Mayor, if we don't do that airport, we are going to lose all this air services that we have in the City of Atlanta. He held up on the airport for over a year. You fly into Atlanta Airport now and you can't hardly, I mean it is just planes coming from everywhere.

Mr. Serio, you are good friend of mine and I love you but, you know if you got the best mouth trap, you don't have to worry about people finding it. You don't have to worry about being a little latein making it. Same thing, that same argument was used in Atlanta. Well, you know if we wait, we are going to lose everything. If we include these people, if we do this ourselves, we are going to lose everything. And look how Atlanta has grown, because of people like you Mr. Miller, who had vision, from both the white and black community who said that Atlanta can do this. I know Atlanta can do this. Here we are sitting here doubting ourselves. I don't have no business being here, if I'm going to doubt myself. We can do this project. I know we can. Fed Ex and the other companies going to be right here because General Motors is moving in and they are going to be bringing a lot of cargo. If Fed Ex don't want to bring it, you can rest assured General Motors is going to find somebody and these other companies that are going to be locating in Shreveport. I really think Fed Ex is going to stay on because Mr. Miller is going to have the personnel, he is going to have personality, he's going to have the means in order to keep them here. Here we are making decisions for Fed Ex and they are not even in the room saying what they are going to do or what they might do. I don't think we have any business doing that. I think we need to do this project and Mr. Miller, I'd put my money on you doing it before I would anybody else. You've impressed me as being smart with a lot of energy and you can do this.

Councilman Huckaby: Mr. Miller, do you know how much money if any this private group is putting up for this project. Mr. Miller: I do not know their financing structure. I know they were going to borrow, I forget the amount of money they borrow, float bonds through the Caddo-Bossier Port Authority. I don't know how much the project they were bonding and how equity they were putting in.

Councilman Huckaby: You wouldn't be interested in knowing how much they are putting up? Mr. Miller: No sir. I would but I wouldn't. I would personally, but professionally if they sign and agree with us to pay us rent how they structure their deals is of interest to me personally, but not professionally.

Councilman Huckaby: Is it possible they are not putting up any cash? Mr. Miller: They could be putting up none, they could be putting up half or all, I don't know. You need to ask them that question.

Councilman Huckaby: I sure would like to know. . . .Mr. Miller: I'll ask them that. Councilman Huckaby: Because if they are not putting up cash money, it is being financed by another public body, there are a lot of people in Shreveport would like to have this deal. I certainly would rather see some Shreveporters have the deal than some people in Connecticut or Pennsylvania or wherever they are from if the Airport just can't do it. I believe the Airport Authority can do it, but if they just can't do it, I would rather see some local people take on this sweetheart deal.

Councilman Spigener: Maybe next time we will have a copy of Robert's Rules of Order and we won't get confused. Councilman Shyne: Please do that, Clerk.

Councilman Spigener: We've had a very patient group of guest that you have just endured our discussion and we appreciate that. I would like for us to go back on our agenda and let the Mayor introduce the guest that are here, if we could get the Mayor back in. Motion by Councilman Shyne to suspend the rules to revert back to Awards and Recognitions, seconded by Councilman Burrell. Motion approved by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Huckaby, Spigener, Serio, Shyne and Burrell. 5. Nays: None. Out of Chamber: Councilmen Stewart and Carmody.

The Deputy Clerk read the resolution by title: Resolution No. 195 of 2000

A resolution authorizing the submission of the 2001-2003 Consolidated Plan and the Annual Action Plan to the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and to otherwise provide with respect thereto.

Mr. Thompson: I believe that yesterday, they asked they asked that this would be postponed.

Read by title and as read motion by Councilman Carmody, seconded by Councilman Serio to postponethe resolution until the next regular meeting. Motion approved by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Shyne and Burrell. 5. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby and Spigener. 2.

RESOLUTION0 NO. 197 OF 2000

RESOLUTION STATING CITY OF SHREVEPORT'S ENDORSEMENT OF WARING OIL COMPANY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BENEFITS OF THE LOUISIANA ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM AND TO OTHERWISE PROVIDE WITH RESPECT THERETO.

WHEREAS, the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Act of 901 of 1981, Act 337 of 1982, Act 433 of 1987, Act 1024 of 1992, Act 581 of 1995, Act 624 of 1997, and Act 997 of 1999;

WHEREAS, the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Program offers significant incentives for economic development to some of the most distressed areas in parish, and

WHEREAS, WARING OIL COMPANY is located in Census Tract 213.00 Block Group 4 , which is a designated Enterprise Zone, and

WHEREAS, said business will employ a minimum of 35% of its employees from the distressed groups targeted by the Enterprise Zone, and

WHEREAS, the City of Shreveport states this endorsement is in agreement with the Overall Economic Development Plan for the City of Shreveport, and

WHEREAS, the attached Enterprise Zone map is marked showing the location of the business being endorsed, and

WHEREAS, in accordance with the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Program requirements the City of Shreveport agrees:

1. To participate in the Enterprise Zone Program

2. To assist the Department in evaluating progress made in any Enterprise Zone within its jurisdiction.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the City of Shreveport, in due, regular, and legal session convened that WARING OIL COMPANY and their project YOUREE DRIVE PROJECT, Enterprise Zone Application # 20000317, is endorsed to participate in the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Program.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that if any provision or item of this resolution or the application thereof is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions, items or applications of this resolution which can be given effect without the invalid provisions, items or applications and to this end the provisions of this resolution are hereby declared severable.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that all resolutions or parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed.

Read by title and as read motion by Councilman Carmody seconded by Councilman Burrell passed by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Shyne and Burrell. 5. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby and Spigener. 2.

RESOLUTION NO. 198 OF 2000

RESOLUTION STATING CITY OF SHREVEPORT'S ENDORSEMENT OF ADVANCED STORES COMPANY, INC. TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BENEFITS OF THE LOUISIANA ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM AND TO OTHERWISE PROVIDE WITH RESPECT THERETO.

WHEREAS, the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Act of 901 of 1981, Act 337 of 1982, Act 433 of 1987, Act 1024 of 1992, Act 581 of 1995, Act 624 of 1997, and Act 997 of 1999;

WHEREAS, the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Program offers significant incentives for economic development to some of the most distressed areas in parish, and

WHEREAS, ADVANCE STORES COMPANY, INC. is located in Census Tract 246.00 Block Group 9 , which is a designated Enterprise Zone, and

WHEREAS, said business will employ a minimum of 35% of its employees from the distressed groups targeted by the Enterprise Zone, and

WHEREAS, the City of Shreveport states this endorsement is in agreement with the Overall Economic Development Plan for the City of Shreveport, and

WHEREAS, the attached Enterprise Zone map is marked showing the location of the business being endorsed, and

WHEREAS, in accordance with the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Program requirements the City of Shreveport agrees:

1. To participate in the Enterprise Zone Program

2. To assist the Department in evaluating progress made in any Enterprise Zone within its

jurisdiction

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the City of Shreveport, in due, regular, and legal session convened that ADVANCE STORE COMPANY, INC. and their project #5551, Enterprise Zone Application # 20000336, is endorsed to participate in the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Program.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that if any provision or item of this resolution or the application thereof is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions, items or applications of this resolution which can be given effect without the invalid provisions, items or applications and to this end the provisions of this resolution are hereby declared severable.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that all resolutions or parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed.

Read by title and as read motion by Councilman Stewart, seconded by Councilman Shyne passed by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Shyne and Burrell. 5. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby and Spigener. 2.

RESOLUTION NO. 199 of 2000

RESOLUTION STATING CITY OF SHREVEPORT'S ENDORSEMENT OF DISCOUNT AUTO PARTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BENEFITS OF THE LOUISIANA ENTERPRISE ZONE PROGRAM AND TO OTHERWISE PROVIDE WITH RESPECT THERETO.

WHEREAS, the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Act of 901 of 1981, Act 337 of 1982, Act 433 of 1987, Act 1024 of 1992, Act 581 of 1995, Act 624 of 1997, and Act 997 of 1999;

WHEREAS, the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Program offers significant incentives for economicdevelopment to some of the most distressed areas in parish, and

WHEREAS, DISCOUNT AUTO PARTS is located in Census Tract 232.00 Block Group 2, which is a designated Enterprise Zone, and

WHEREAS, said business will employ a minimum of 35% of its employees from the distressed groups targeted by the Enterprise Zone, and

WHEREAS, the City of Shreveport states this endorsement is in agreement with the Overall Economic Development Plan for the City of Shreveport, and

WHEREAS, the attached Enterprise Zone map is marked showing the location of the business being endorsed, and

WHEREAS, in accordance with the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Program requirements the City of Shreveport agrees:

1. To participate in the Enterprise Zone Program

2. To assist the Department in evaluating progress made in any Enterprise Zone within its

jurisdiction

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the City of Shreveport, in due, regular, and legal session convened that DISCOUNT AUTO PARTS and their project #755 , Enterprise Zone Application # 20000405, is endorsed to participate in the Louisiana Enterprise Zone Program.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that if any provision or item of this resolution or the application thereof is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions, items or applications of this resolution which can be given effect without the invalid provisions, items or applications and to this end the provisions of this resolution are hereby declared severable.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that all resolutions or parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed.

Read by title and as read motion by Councilman Carmody, seconded by Councilman Serio passed by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Shyne and Burrell. 5. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby and Spigener. 2.

INTRODUCTION OF RESOLUTIONS: None.

INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCES:

1. Ordinance No. 193 of 2000: An ordinance amending the 2000 Capital Improvements Budget, appropriating the funds therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

2. Ordinance No. 194 of 2000: An ordinance amending the 2000 budget for the Water and Sewerage Enterprise Fund and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

3. Ordinance No. 195 of 2000: An ordinance amending Chapter 106 of the Code of Ordinances, the City of Shreveport Zoning Ordinance, by rezoning property located on the NW corner of Line Avenue and Dalzell, Shreveport, Caddo Parish, Louisiana from SPI-1, Highland Urban Conservation District to SPI-1-E, Highland Urban Conservation/Extended Use District limited to "office, restaurant with a maximum of 1200 sq. ft. and light retail uses" only, and to otherwise provide with respect thereto.

4. Ordinance No. 196 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the lease of city-owned property located at 740 Stephenson Street to Enver Alidema and Drita Alidema and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

Read by title and as read motion by Councilman Carmody seconded by Councilman Serio for Introduction of Ordinance Nos. 193, 194 and 195 of 2000 to lay over until the November 14, 2000 meeting and Ordinance No. 196 of 2000 to lay over until the November 28, 2000 meeting. Motion approved by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Shyne and Burrell. 5. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby and Spigener. 2.

ORDINANCES ON SECOND READING AND FINAL PASSAGE:

1. Ordinance No. 160 of 2000: An ordinance amending the 2000 Capital Improvements Budget, appropriating the funds therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

Having passed first reading on October 10, 2000 was read by title and on motion ordered passed to third reading. Read the third time in full and as read motion by Councilman Serio, seconded by Councilman Burrell for adoption. The Deputy Clerk read the following amendment:

AMEND THE ORDINANCE AS FOLLOWS:

In Program C:

Increase the appropriation for Shreve Park Industrial Campus Roadways (95-C003) by $1,000,000. Funding source is EDA Grant.

In Program D:

Decrease the appropriation for Southern Oaks Drainage Improvements (97-D001) by$143,000. Funding source is 1983 GOB, Prop. 2.

Establish a new project entitled Southern Oaks Pump Station Improvements (00-D003) at $423,300. Funding sources are $143,000 from 1983 GOB Prop. 2 and $280,300 from Statewide Flood Control Program.

In Program L:

Increase the appropriation for 1998 SporTran Capital Improvements (98-L001) by $66,000. Funding source is General Fund Revenues.

Decrease the appropriation for 1999 SporTran Capital Improvements (99-L001) by $500,000. Decrease FTA/FHWA Grant by $400,000 and General Fund Revenues by $100,000.

Increase the appropriation for 2000 SporTran Capital Improvements (00-L001) by $573,200. Funding sources are $147,500 from General Fund Revenues and $425,700 from FTA/FHWA Grant.

Motion by Councilman Carmody, seconded by Councilman Serio to adopt the amendment. Motion approved by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Shyne and Burrell. 5. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby and Spigener. 2.

Motion by Councilman Burrell, seconded by Councilman Serio for adoption of the ordinance as amended. Motion approved by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, Shyne and Burrell. 5. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby and Spigener. 2.

2. Ordinance No. 161 of 2000: An ordinance amending Section 74-54 of the Code of Ordinances relative to landfill disposal fees and to otherwise provide with respect thereto.

Having passed first reading on October 10, 2000 was read by title and on motion ordered passed to third reading. Read the third time in full and as read motion by Councilman Carmody, seconded by Councilman Serio for adoption.

Councilman Carmody: Mr. Mayor, we are about to amend the Code of Ordinances relative to the landfill disposal fees and as you were not here yesterday during the work session, I just wanted to bring it to your attention that I heard from some constituents that their present hauler has told them that they are going to have to go up on their fees as a result of the City of Shreveport increasing its costs to dispose at our landfill and I just did not know if you had any comment on that or not? Mayor Hightower: Mike, can you brief us on the actual cost and what the pass through would be? We've gone through this in the past, increases in landfill fees and I think what we have to be cognizant of, is being ready and able to talk to anyone out there that uses private waste disposal companies to be sure and understand that fee should be passed through and not passed through and tacked onto.

Councilman Carmody: I think that we may have a situation where it is being passed though and then tacked onto but we are made to be the heavies in the whole thing. Mr. Strong: I think that is correct. Some of the things that we are hearing that is in here that they are passing on, when you start looking at that this is only a $2 per ton increase and this is over a, actually, the pat 2 years where we have had two increases, one of $ 0.50 and then one of the $0.88, this is trying to bring us closer into line of where the fees were.. But I think that that is exactly what is happening.. You got increases in gasoline and probably salaries that are going in there, but we are being made the guy that is actually increased the fees.

Councilman Carmody: And as I appreciate it, our management company for our land fill receives a increase based upon the cost of living or some type of inflationary factor, and then the last, at least last year, we absorbed that cost? Mr. Strong: That is correct.

Councilman Carmody: So this year, again we are going to vote to approve, I'm sure, this increase in our landfill cost, but I do want the fellows to be aware that any additional cost over and above that is not the result of the City of Shreveport. Mr. Strong: That would be correct, sir.

Ordinance adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, and Shyne. 4. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby, Spigener and Burrell. 3.

3. Ordinance No. 189 of 2000: An ordinance amending the 2000 Capital Improvements Budget, appropriating the funds therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

Having passed first reading on October 10, 2000 was read by title and on motion ordered passed to third reading. Read the third time in full and as read motion by Councilman Stewart, seconded by CouncilmanSerio adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, and Shyne. 4. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby, Spigener and Burrell. 3.

4. Ordinance No. 162 of 2000: An ordinance making it unlawful for a vehicle to make a left turn from Village Green onto Sophia Lane, and to otherwise provide with respect thereto.

Having passed first reading on October 10, 2000 was read by title and on motion ordered passed to third reading. Read the third time in full and as read motion by Councilman Serio, seconded by Councilman Carmody to postpone Ordinance No. 162 through 173 of 2000 and then Ordinance No. 174 through 188 until the November 14, 2000 meeting, Motion adopted by the following vote: Ayes: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, and Shyne. 4. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby, Spigener and Burrell. 3.

5. Ordinance No. 163 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 3132 Castlewood Drive, Lot 9, Block F, Block D as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

6. Ordinance No. 164 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 2840 Meriwether Road as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

7. Ordinance No. 165 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 2920 Meriwether Road as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

8. Ordinance No. 166 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 3038 Meriwether Road as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

9. Ordinance No. 167 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 3115 Meadow Parkway Drive, Lot 6, Block E as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

10. Ordinance No. 168 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 3119 Meadow Parkway Drive, Lot 5, Block D as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

11. Ordinance No. 169 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 3126 Meadow Parkway Drive, Lot 28, Block D as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

12. Ordinance No. 170 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 3131 Meadow Parkway Drive, Lot 8, Block F as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

13. Ordinance No. 171 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 3134 Meadow Parkway Drive, Lot 30 as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

14. Ordinance No. 172 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 3135 Meadow Parkway Drive, Lot 7, Block F as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

15. Ordinance No. 173 of 2000: An ordinance authorizing the Shreveport Airport to dispose of the improvements located at 3138 Meadow Parkway Drive, Lot 31, Block D as described herein as surplus property and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

Postpone until Dec. 15

16. Ordinance No. 174 of 1999: An ordinance adopting the 2001 General Fund Budget appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

17. Ordinance No. 175 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 Capital Improvements Budget in accordance with Section 7.03 of the City Charter, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

18. Ordinance No. 176 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 Budget for Water and Sewerage Enterprise Fund, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

19. Ordinance No. 177 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 Airports Budget, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

20. Ordinance No. 178 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 Budget for the Retained Risk Internal Service Fund Budget, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

21. Ordinance No. 179 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 Budget for the Golf Enterprise Fund, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

22. Ordinance No. 180 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 Metropolitan Planning Commission's Special Revenue Fund Budget, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

23. Ordinance No. 181 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 Budget funding contractual services provided to SporTran by the Metro Management Associates, Inc., appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

24. Ordinance No. 182 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 Debt Service Fund Budget, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

25. Ordinance No. 183 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 budget for the Community Development Special Revenue Fund, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

26. Ordinance No. 184 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 budget for the Riverfront Development Special Revenue Fund, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwiseproviding with respect.

27. Ordinance No. 185 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 budget for the Police Grants Special Revenue Fund, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

28. Ordinance No. 186 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 budget for the Fleet Services Internal Service Fund budget, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

29. Ordinance No. 187 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 budget for the Shreveport Redevelopment Agency Special Revenue Fund, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

30. Ordinance No. 188 of 2000: An ordinance adopting the 2001 budget for the Downtown Parking Enterprise fund, appropriating the funds authorized therein and otherwise providing with respect thereto.

ORDINANCE NO. 160 OF 2000

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE 2000 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUDGET, APPROPRIATING THE FUNDS THEREIN AND OTHERWISE PROVIDING WITH RESPECT THERETO.

WHEREAS, the City Charter provides for the amendment of any previously-adopted budget; and

WHEREAS, the City Council finds it necessary to amend the 2000 Capital Improvements Budget, to increase funding for the Independence Stadium project and for other purposes.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the City Council of the City of Shreveport, in legal session convened, that Ordinance No. 153 of 1999, the 2000 Capital Improvements Budget, be amended as follows:

In Program B (Recreation Improvements):

Increase the appropriation for Independence Stadium Renovation (00-B001) by $5,000,000. Funding source is 2000 Stadium Bonds.

In Program C:

In Pr Increase the appropriation for Shreve Park Industrial Campus Roadways (95-C003) by $1,000,000. Funding source is EDA Grant.

In Program D:

Decrease the appropriation for Southern Oaks Drainage Improvements (97-D001) by$143,000. Funding source is 1983 GOB, Prop. 2.

Establish a new project entitled Southern Oaks Pump Station Improvements (00-D003) at $423,300. Funding sources are $143,000 from 1983 GOB Prop. 2 and $280,300 from Statewide Flood Control Program.

In Program L:

Increase the appropriation for 1998 SporTran Capital Improvements (98-L001) by $66,000. Funding source is General Fund Revenues.

Decrease the appropriation for 1999 SporTran Capital Improvements (99-L001) by $500,000. Decrease FTA/FHWA Grant by $400,000 and General Fund Revenues by $100,000.

Increase the appropriation for 2000 SporTran Capital Improvements (00-L001) by $573,200. Funding sources are $147,500 from General Fund Revenues and $425,700 from FTA/FHWA Grant.

BE IT FURTHER ORDAINED that the remainder of Ordinance 153 of 1999, as amended, is hereby re-enacted.

BE IT FURTHER ORDAINED that if any provision or item of this ordinance or the application thereof is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions, items, or applications of this ordinance which can be given effect without the invalid provisions, items or applications; and, to this end, the provisions of this ordinance are hereby declared severable.

BE IT FURTHER ORDAINED that all ordinances or parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed.

ORDINANCE NO. 161 OF 2000

A ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION 74-54 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATIVE TO LANDFILL DISPOSAL FEES AND TO OTHERWISE PROVIDE WITH RESPECT THERETO.

WHEREAS, the City of Shreveport's per ton cost for landfill disposal has increased from $17.88 to $18.76, effective September 1, 2000, pursuant to the provisions of the City's contract for landfill disposal;

WHEREAS, the City of Shreveport has absorbed the cost of a prior cost increase for landfill disposal without increasing the per ton fee charged to it's customers;

WHEREAS, an increase in the landfill fee charged to the City of Shreveport's customers would offset the increase effective September 1, 2000 and recover funds previously absorbed by the City;

THEN NOW, THEREFORE BE IT ORDAINED by the City Council of the City of Shreveport, in due, legal and regular session convened that Section 74-54 of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Shreveport is hereby amended to read as follows:

Sec. 74-54. Disposal fees for city-owned facilities.

(a)***

(1)***

(2) The minimum fee, regardless of weight, shall be $14.50.

(3) The fee per ton shall be $29.00, with any partial fee being prorated on the basis of that basic fee exclusive of the minimum fee requirement.

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BE IT FURTHER ORDAINED that if any provision or item of this Ordinance or the application thereof is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions, items or applications of this Ordinance which can be given affect without the invalid provisions, items or applications and to this end the provisions of this Ordinance are hereby declared severable.

BE IT FURTHER ORDAINED that all Ordinances or parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed.

ORDINANCE NO. 189 OF 2000

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE 2000 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUDGET, APPROPRIATING THE FUNDS THEREIN AND OTHERWISE PROVIDING WITH RESPECT THERETO.

WHEREAS, the City Charter provides for the amendment of any previously-adopted budget; and

WHEREAS, the City Council finds it necessary to amend the 2000 Capital Improvements Budget, to increase funding for the Independence Stadium project and for other purposes.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the City Council of the City of Shreveport, in legal session convened, that Ordinance No. 153 of 1999, the 2000 Capital Improvements Budget, be amended as follows:

In Program B (Recreation Improvements):

Increase the appropriation for Independence Stadium Renovation (00-B001) by $5,000,000. Funding source is 2000 Stadium Bonds.

BE IT FURTHER ORDAINED that the remainder of Ordinance 153 of 1999, as amended, is hereby re-enacted.

BE IT FURTHER ORDAINED that if any provision or item of this ordinance or the application thereof is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions, items, or applications of this ordinance which can be given effect without the invalid provisions, items or applications; and, to this end, the provisions of this ordinance are hereby declared severable.

BE IT FURTHER ORDAINED that all ordinances or parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS (tabled legislation):

1. Ordinance No. 211 of 1998: ZONING: C-64-98, QUERBES LAND CO; N side of E 70th St. between Sand Beach Bayou and Bayou Pierre from R-A to B-2 and B-3, shopping center. (C/Carmody) (Tabled on November 10, 1998 and Postponed on November 24, 1998)

2. Ordinance No. 54 of 1999: Creating a Police Department Citizens' Review Board. (A/Huckaby) (Tabled on August 10, 1999)

3. Ordinance No. 125 of 2000 by Councilman Huckaby: Amending Chapter 10 of the Code of Ordinances by deleting Section 10-144, or its successor provision, relative to physical separation of sales of beverages of high alcoholic content for consumption off the premises. (Tabled on August 22, 2000)

4, Complaint against Express Medical Service: A Class B Ambulance Provider (set time and place of hearing in accordance with Sec. 46-60 of the Code).

NEW BUSINESS:

REPORTS FROM OFFICERS, BOARDS AND COMMITTEES. None.

CLERK'S REPORT.

Letter of Appeal: C-72-00, WILLIAM MARSHALL, 819 S'port-Barksdale Hwy., modify or delete Stip. No. 4 in Case No. C-4-91 which permitted a 2-story addition adjacent to single story residential uses in a B-1 District, attorney's office on 2 floor of existing building. (C/Carmody) (not to be considered prior to Nov. 14)

COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS MATTERS.

The Council resolved itself into Committee of the Whole on motion by Councilman Serio, seconded by Councilman Stewart. Motion approved by the following vote: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, and Shyne. 4. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby, Spigener, and Burrell. 3.

Motion by Councilman Carmody, seconded by Councilman Serio that the Committee Rises and Report and reconvene itself as the Council. Motion approved by the following vote: Councilmen Stewart, Carmody, Serio, and Shyne. 4. Nays: None. Absent: Councilmen Huckaby, Spigener, and Burrell. 3.

There being no further business to come before the Council, the meeting adjourned at 6:15 p.m.